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2 hours ago, magmouse said:
It would be interesting though to try model photography with traditional methods, to see how close to the look of late 19th and early 20th century photos you could get. Digital black and white conversions rarely get even close to the right tonality.
How do you convert to monochrome? The default is pretty rubbish but if you do it in photoshop you can vary the tonality quite a lot. You could probably even replicate ortho film. -ish.
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Back in the '70s I did quite a lot of work with architects which included photographing their models. Sometimes I borrowed a sort of reverse periscope thing which, attached to an SLR, could get right inside the structures. Nowadays it's easier to use a mobile phone...
PS: I certainly wouldn't fancy using a 10x8 !
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15 hours ago, magmouse said:
As a paid-up member of the Campaign for Real Cameras, I approve.
The manual is available online: https://www.panasonic.com/au/support/manual-download/imaging/lumix-cameras/dmc-fs62.html
Call that a real camera? This is a real camera...
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4 hours ago, MikeOxon said:
as Beerbohm put it - " that antique station, which, familiar to them and insignificant, does yet whisper to the tourist the last enchantments of the Middle Age."
Perhaps a scale replica of Ms Dobson leaning against the railings?
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On 14/07/2023 at 09:55, Northroader said:
Well, boss, there were these two pilot engines at York and Newcastle in the late fifties:
Im afraid depending on the film and the light, they could appear a much lighter shade.
I think that was meant to be LNER Apple Green. I was taken to the York Railway Museum in c1954 though I trust you'll forgive me for not being able to remember the exact shade of green used on the NER locos there. As nobody else will remember either, I suggest you don't beat yourself up about it – just as long as you don't use Brunswick Green!
Richard
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I think that's more Invisible Green...
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On 11/07/2023 at 21:29, Welchester said:
Nice one.Oh dear, betraying our age again, I fear...
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On 02/05/2023 at 00:07, AVS1998 said:
Well, it transpires that the SS Atlantic was (sort-of) displayed at the Great Exhibition in July 1851, with dignitaries being conveyed from the exhibition (presumably from Sydenham station?) via the GWR for an evening meal.
In 1851 the Crystal Palace was still in Hyde Park so any GWR trains run in connection with it would have gone from Paddington, presumably.
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On 06/07/2023 at 20:48, Edwardian said:
Could be worse
[Bauhaus: Chief architect Gropius and his erection]
With an erection like that, no wonder Alma was so keen...
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On 06/07/2023 at 11:09, Compound2632 said:
... and ought to have had a second set of brakes added by the mid-20s or so.
Equally, a wagon built with brakes on both sides need not have been built after 1911 - throughout the Edwardian period, many builders were anticipating the Board of Trade Rules, 1911, since those Rules were made under power given to the BoT by the Railway Employment (Prevention of Accidents) Act, 1900, itself the outcome of a Royal Commission that reported in that year. There had been a period of experiment by the railway companies, under the aegis of the Railway Clearing House, leading to the general adoption of independent eitherside brakes for mineral wagons by c. 1907.
While I totally agree with Stephen's assertion that some wagon builders pre-empted the rule change, others did not. Dunkerton Coal Factors had a batch of 12-ton wagons supplied by Chas Roberts in 1911 which definitely only had one set of brakes, in which state they lasted until well into the 1920s apparently.
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I am both a Trustee and a committee member (formerly chairman, now just a supernumerary) of our local village hall charity, so yes you can be both.
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2 hours ago, Ian Smith said:
Getting back to railway matters, I’ve finally joined the Great Western Study Group, and looking at the newsletters so far received, the group journal (Pannier) has finally got a new editor, the previous one continuing long beyond his preferred retirement - it almost seemed that an ultimatum was the only way to get new blood into the role (a kind of “that’s it, no more publications unless someone new steps up”).
Ian, you may be pleased to know that the next issue of Pannier should be going to printers next week, once Editor Paul Denton has signed it off.
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I think the crane still in place at Dundas Wharf is also a product of Stothert & Pitt. I have a photo ... somewhere.
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"Remember Magna Carta. Did she die in vain?"
The weasel word is 'eligible' when anything less than universal adult suffrage is in force – ie pre-1928, as Stephen noted – it is a very threadbare democracy. But then I'm a weirdo for believing that government should be for the many, not the few.
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On 17/06/2023 at 19:03, Edwardian said:
Yes, but in Vlad's defence, Russia's democratic tradition was a 5 minutes interval before the next Strong Man arrived, whereas Boris is the product of some 300 years of Parliamentary democracy.
"300 years of British Parliamentary democracy"? That's a bit of a stretch. More like 35 years – from 1945 to 1980...
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34 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:
Delightful but not what I had in mind (come on, I've given you three clues now...).
K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M for those of you old enough to have listened to Radio Luxembourg...
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On 05/06/2023 at 22:25, corneliuslundie said:
I have recently unashamedly painted and lettered a wagon in a fictitious coal merchant's livery since he operated at a fictitious station I am modelling (though as accurate in terms of style etc as possible). Many of us do that as very few of us have room for a real station (I liked Market Bosworth at Crewe yesterday but even there a small amount of compression was needed. And even Faringdon has the gardens which are "typical" rather than accurate representations. After all, if Pendon can do it so can we.
Jonathan
The Cwmtowy Mineral Railway, which for some unaccountable reason was never built, would have increased the potential trade for the real local coal merchants in Llandovery. I have therefore granted one of them possession of a secondhand coal wagon (aren't I kind). The merchant in question was Mary Jones, the figure on the right in the photo.
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4 hours ago, Compound2632 said:
Empty to Burton of course.
Actually it says "Buxton" but never mind, eh? Should've gone to Specsavers... 😀
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There was quite a lot of rabbit traffic generated on the exGER lines – mainly from Thetford Forest. I believe it all went to London first.
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1 hour ago, Not Jeremy said:
All of David's corrections (and very much more information besides) is all included in to the new edition of Jack's book written by John Lewis.
It is in the final stages of editing and will be published this year by Wild Swan Books.
It is very pictorial and illustrates well the detail differences between the successive diagrams from the beginning to the end.
Simon
Thanks Simon, that's good to know.
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On 28/05/2023 at 15:43, 4069 said:
The list of corrections has since been published separately as Pannier Supplement No. 1 and is (was?) available from the GWSG.
I must point out that this is a (lengthy) list of corrections to the Russell books – and is still available from http://www.gwsg.org.uk. David Hyde compiled an equally lengthy* list of corrections to Jack Slinn's Siphons book which I am not aware of seeing published.
* 2 sheets of closely typed A4
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2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:
The same policy of attacking a neutral fleet, for the same end, was applied at Mers-el-Kebir in 1940.
I'm not convinced that the Vichy regime could be regarded as strictly neutral. Certainly Churchill didn't trust the French Admiral Darlan. Later, when the Germans tried to seize the Atlantic fleet at Toulon, the French themselves scuttled it.
2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:But the question of timber supplies is on-topic, given the quantity consumed in wagon building over the hundred years from the 1830s to the 1930s. Specifications call for English or American oak for the frame members and Danzig, Memel, of generally Baltic deals for sheeting and flooring boards.
Timber from the Baltic – deals and 'battins' – was being imported into ports like Cley/Blakeney on the east coast of England in the C18.
2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:And we did go off on this naval excursion thanks to the question of knees!
Stupid question: why were they called knees instead of elbows? Don't bother to answer that!
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Shortage of native grown timber or not, in the early C19 quite a few merchant ships were built in northern Canada, particularly on Prince Edward Island. Details in the Merchant Navy Lists.
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14 hours ago, Andy Vincent said:
Does anyone know why wagons of this period had external knees? From an engineering perspective, the only thing I can think of was that external knees spread the load over the full height rather than just the bolts and washer plate - but that doesnt seem to be enough of a reason. Neither does that it kept the interior 'tidy' although that would also be true.
The use of external side knees was indeed to provide a clear space inside for merchandise traffic. Obviously for mineral traffic there was no problem with internal encumbrances.
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HS2
in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)
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It is hard to escape the thought that the vast sums of money being spent on HS2 could be better employed on much needed major upgrades and electrification of the existing network – especially in the north of the country – rather than whisking people at high speed from a field in west London to a car park in east Birmingham. Meanwhile, government imposed austerity ravages the rest of the public realm.