Wickham Green
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Haggis anyone ?
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Sort of ......... they were 'just' 08s with a different gear ratio - but followed the aforementioned Bulleid locos ( BR class 12 ) which were go-faster machines : oddly, those didn't have train brakes originally - so intended for short distance work between yards.
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If your layout is early BR period, a very care-worn LNER livery would be perfectly plausible.
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I thought there would be housing in view there - but the map suggests not : they've both got suitable water courses so it could be either ......... or somewhere else entirely !!?!
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You can't see that view for trees and a fence on the road bridge now ............. the branch and 'box have gone, of course, - and the footbridge roof - but the station's much the same. otherwise ( CTRL tracks out of sight to the left ).
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There's another rail-related picture they've been using in the last few days - a frosty scene with a viaduct in the background - could be the Ouse Valley aka Balcombe p'raps ?
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Can't believe nobody's mentioned Waterloo ( three of which railway sites I can think of ) ........... though, obviously the battle pre-dated the railway age and the name must have been adopted by the area first.
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Interesting theory ......... but these were Maunsell locos with normal spokey wheels ( OVSB didn't cook-up the BFB style until later ! ).
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On 13/03/2020 at 20:12, Nearholmer said:
I always wonder about design attribution with locos that are so obviously built to a generic design thrashed out between a railway (LMS) and its suppliers, and then procured and/or part-built-in-house by another railway.Definitely a camel.
Always wondered about those massive fly-cranks .... far chunkier than those on otherwise similar-looking machines
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Oh - i wish i had a local model shop to
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Indeed ..........................
( Would look even better without those 'orrible things below the headstock - but I guess there'd be howls of protest if they only fitted three-links ! )
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Totally ??!?
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1 minute ago, truffy said:
OK, I'll bite...what the hell does this have to do with Hattons' products (the subject of this forum). Why not post this in the model shop guide forum?
Does anyone ever read that ?
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Hattons raise the issue of the Ally Pally show ( etc.) ...... I guess the whole country won't be on lockdown that soon - but York might be a casualty ??!? ( Unlike certain other hobbies, a model railway show behind closed doors would be rather pointless ! )
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1 hour ago, jafcreasey said:
The second batch is now "due to arrive by April 2020", according to Hattons.
"by April" ? ....................................... must be on the boat by now !
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This is not the Southern or Great Eastern so there's - effectively - no such thing as a fixed-formation carriage set ....... yes, mixed ages and liveries are certainly OK.
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What is it about LNWR brakes ? ............ some time back - not on RMWeb - a question was raised about a similar body, somewhere in Wigtownshire, with comments that it wasn't recognised as of Scottish origin - but speculation that it might have come from across the North Channel.
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13 hours ago, Michael Edge said:
Not just that, most of the ones you see for sale are all sorts of exotic liveries - much harder to find all the ordinary colliery ones.
Yep - all sorts of exotic liveries that would be appropriate on eight- or ten-ton wagons in the 1920s .... but applied to RCH standard 12T bodies ( often as not, stretched to fit a 17'6'' chassis ).
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20 minutes ago, Michael Edge said:
........ these numbers were allocated more or less at random.
Yes and No ............... blocks of numbers were allocated to each workshop that might receive the occasional wagon ( Railway works, Wagon Repairs etc ) but the numbers were then applied to whatever wagons appeared in random sequence : one of Dave Larkin's recent volumes give mind-numbing detail of inherited steel-bodied wagons !
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The better 12T '1923 standard' PO wagons ( and select others ) were allocated 'P' numbers and most received them on their original liveries .... a few would have received BR grey - but not many as they all had limited lives. Anything of less than 12T had even shorter lives under BR and were quickly replaced by thousands of 16T steel wagons : the earliest of which actually pre-dated nationalisation and were probably carrying LMS, NE or 'Ministry' liveries in '53.
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1953's only five years after nationalisation so many, many wagons, many coaches and quite a few locomotives would have retained earlier liveries. A number of locos would, indeed, have the full 'BRITISH AIRWAYS' inscription. Few wagons would have retained pre'36 liveries though ............... and one variant you don't mention is former PO wagons - mainly 12-tonners by then - with 'P' prefix numbers. Livery-wise it's a complex period ........ and very fascinating !
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1 hour ago, bike2steam said:
In other words it was cheaper, and quicker to put straight panniers tanks on a loco, than fabricate a saddle-tank around the awkward shape of Belpaire firebox ...........
Yes, but lots of industrial saddle tank locos had the tank forward of the firebox so its shape would have been of no consequence !
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4 hours ago, Daniel Gee said:
What Pre Grouping liveries would you recommend?
The I ask is because I am going to be painting one of these:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/7YT39EAJK/0-4-0-side-tank?optionId=65683427&li=user-profile
A freelance prototype deserves a freelance livery ....... have fun inventing something for the Unlikely & Neverwas Railway !
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A Belpaire 'box has a greater heating surface within the same width, length & depth ............. but it probably ain't quite that simple !
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British Sugar - J79 Cantley No. 2
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Don't forget lots of things didn't get painted in the forties - unless it was in camouflage green - so a loco scrapped in the early fifties could have still carried the livery it left main line service in the late thirties - I think one of the Brighton E1s did.