Wickham Green

If we're not careful somebody will bring this thread back to a model railway topic by mentioning Mazak rot !

Looks like former mineral wagon that doesn't want to be overloaded with spoil !

This is the one you want : https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/triang-oo-gauge-r349-murgatroyds-219757015

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

In many cases its impracticle to follow the book. The classic case is the Hound of the Baskervilles. In the book the villain coated the hound in a substance to make it glow in the dark. In reality the substance used would have left the poor pooch dying in agony.

No problem with today's CGI though !

Units were stabled on the up side just outside Marylebone ( blocks of flats now ) .... I photographed Sir Nigel Gresley there once ( the loco - not the bloke ! ).

CAUTION : PEDANT MODE  -  "An alloy is a combination of a metal with at least one other metal or nonmetal." ........ which  may well include magnesium !

Well, Hornby might have thought so - https://api.maas.museum/object/43911 - and with green underframes too ! ................... though the complete lack of any railway identification - let alone the complete absence of of photographic evidence rather suggests that our Frank was having a 'Rule 1' moment !

That'll be goods van B786181 : http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=13866

37 minutes ago, br2975 said:

........ Many of the redundant banana vans were then used as "fitted head" on certain South Wales workings.

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These were all 10'0" wb vans, renamed "Tadpole"  .......................

I remember seeing a number of these for scrap at Barry : certainly some were Southern types and had been ballasted with a couple of feet of concrete inside !

Confusion arises from the conversion of 'Class A' tanks to 'Class B' - a lot of them for bitumen traffic - after the war.

This suggests that the Lakeside loco is, indeed "Basra" : -

......... and THIS definitely WAS "Basra" in service at Longmoor .... with apologies for the quality !

On 14/02/2020 at 11:43, Fat Controller said:

The L&SWR, later the SR, were pretty 'careful'. When they started an electrification scheme, prior to WW1, the stock used bodies salvaged from 19th century stock. The underframes were not wasted, but used under 'new' bogie Passenger Luggage Vans; one of which carried Churchill's coffin from London to Oxfordshire in January 1965.

Yes, the Southern 'kit-bashed' bodies from all three principal constituents onto new chassis for their 1920's suburban electrification schemes ......... and when the bodies were eventually deemed life expired they stuck new Bulleid-style bodies on and, as EPB units, many of the chassis ran on into the eighties.

On 15/02/2020 at 11:01, Curlew said:

The original Glasgow Underground stock was long-lived 1896–1977

........ but wouldn't have lasted much longer - you could see and HEAR - the body moving every time it stopped or started !

On 16/02/2020 at 04:01, The Johnster said:

.......  1891 or not, it looks remarkably like a 1st generation dmu vehicle!

I believe the end IS contemporary with 1st generation DMUs.

On 15/02/2020 at 05:41, PatB said:

Assuming the Newcastle Metro is still using its original stock, they'll be ~40 years old now. Its a bit worrying to think I rode on them when they were almost new. 

VERY worrying that I photographed a couple of them when they were almost new*  -  but I STILL haven't travelled on them ! ( Must hurry up ! )

* interestingly, the next couple of photos show "the new “Ark Royal” being fitted out .... Amid the cranes of Swan Hunter’s shipyard" : maybe someone's got a 'Longevity of warships' and/or 'Longevity of shipyards' thread ? 

The Dutch actually have a far better idea ............................. use bicycles instead of cars. 

12 hours ago, woodenhead said:

It took Hornby a long time to do one in 00 and they still don't have one for GWR beyond the ancient Railroad one. ......

........ and the LMS twelve wheeler's not exactly up to current standards.

Thameslink train ? ...... no, I said geegees not cattle trucks !

Couldn't be bothered reading all that twitter - but I guess reinstatement of trains at Lingfield is something to do with the geegees !

Hmmmm ..... Rawtenstall's not exactly on the way to Heywood from ANYWHERE !

Two for the price of one - they're still working on this slip nearby https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-regions/southern/tonbridge-to-redhill-line-closure

2 hours ago, Phil Bullock said:

 

That sounds like a leading question Mr SM....... are you alluding to the use of a single stretcher bar across both sets of blades?

I wouldn't fancy having to keep that in adjustment !

1 hour ago, jim.snowdon said:

I rather suspect that some railways made more of a distinction between express passenger train speeds and those of fast goods trains, with 9' wb being acceptable for the latter, but not the former.At the same time the whys and wherefores of how four wheeled wagons behaved at higher speeds were as yet unknown territory. Patently there was some realisation that having a longer wheelbase improved the riding qualities, but beyond the application of 10' wb on some railways only the LNER. Went further with significantly longer wheelbases on their fish vans and goods brake vans. 

 

Jim 

All four 'grouping' railways had switched to 10' wheelbase for their general open and covered goods wagons long before nationalisation so the LMS / early BR throwback to 9' for banana vans seems very odd.

I wonder if it was detached from some train with a hot box ............ you'd not expect it to be any where near a coal yard under normal circumstances ( whether in traffic OR going for scrap ).

.... or the Great Eastern might have used 'roader' sheds like their South Eastern neighbours ? : https://www.roxeymouldings.co.uk/product/141/4b12-ser/secr/sr/br-roader-shed/