Sir TophamHatt
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Guess there hasn't been any further updates for this?
I do wish Hornby would have some sort of projects page with each project a link to news about it and it's progress.
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On 19/04/2024 at 13:15, Michael Hodgson said:
I suppose that depends on one's budget.
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Although this is an expensive hobby these days for the standards people probably want.
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On 04/04/2024 at 11:25, Michael Hodgson said:
It is interesting that a considerable majority of the sales on ebay seem to be analogue. I wonder to what extent that is because people are upgrading from DC to either variety of DCC but don't feel able to fit decoders to older locos that are not DCC-ready, vs those who are changing scale/period or withdrawing from the hobby/deceased estates.
Or those that want better looking locos?
IF I was ever interested in a Class 47 or 37, I wouldn't even consider the previous versions from Hornby and just get the latest ones.
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On 09/03/2024 at 02:23, daveyb said:
I think the problems with DCC sound were nailed by Melmerby on page 1 of this thread. Tiny speakers in tiny locos sound tinny... you cannae change the laws of physics!
An excellent point but should people adjust their expectations?
I don't expect something so small to sound the same as a full size equivilent because it isn't a full size version. Just like when trains are going round, I don't get the vibration or woosh of wind or many of the other things.
It's just a compromise.
Which is the same with sound - and that comes from a semi-audiophile who wants quality over anything else when it comes with sound.
I don't expect studio quality or proper balance from a tiny model train but saying that, I do want as much quality as possible from such a small sound unit. And what is being produced in the last 6 months with that regard is pretty good.Personally, I don't consider a loco if it isn't DCC.
And if there's no sound option, around the time of ordering I look to see whether there is a sound producer or if it's planned by someone.
If the model didn't come with sound, I would be a little put off as I want that option and I am happy to pay more for it. But then my budget allows me to do that - I see some people blowing over £2000 on 20 Class 66's where as I am happy to pay £300 for one sound loco.-
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On 06/04/2024 at 11:59, Tiny151 said:
That was certainly not the intention. It was posted in good faith focusing the humour on the equipment rather than any individual in what I understand to be a minor incident where everyone is safe. I understand your point though and hadn't considered that it might be viewed that way, apologies.
It shouldn't be viewed in that way.
People are all too happy to point out the doom and gloom these days.
Don't apologise if someone else feels it was distasteful. It didn't to you, and that wasn't the intention, so if someone else has a problem, it's their problem.
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On 13/03/2024 at 23:07, phil-b259 said:
Toy trains by contrast are not something which is needed for business purposes and as such are a completely different thing to new wagons.
So why not give up the design or sell it to Hornby?
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Thanks - just seen they're all OOS on Accurascale website but found someone else who has some at the same price.
Just back to the same question I had with Hattons version... EWS, which I used to see all the time and feel I should buy it won't really go with some container wagons I plan to buy, which is usually Freightliner (although I see EWS has had some before but less common)... of which I hate the green sticker behind the logo (I know prototypical but I still don't like it).
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I guess there's no advantage of ordering one now or after release?
I've been out of the loop for months now - only just realised a few weeks ago this was happening!
Obviously now means I have one ordered but there will be some available over the next few months, surely?
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Maybe GNER HST but I dunno, funds are a bit tight at the mo.
I guess if it's being released, at least there will be some around later on.
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Wow - late to the party on this but glad I got my pre-order in.
Let's just hope they didn't raise the price from RRP to launch. Glad to support a model shop (albeit having them post it to me) too!
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And realistically, that's the way models are going - DCC fitted at least.
From a support point of view, it must be easier to have everything as factory standard as manufacturers don't know if it's a person's decoder that doesn't play ball, or the unit.
I prefer DCC fitted as models are getting a bit too intricate to get apart to put in a decoder.
Fully understand some people like to tinker with CVs and such and so having their own decoder may be worth it for them but manufacturers surely need to look at the majority, not the small amount of people tinkering.
Also fully understand some people will want to grease the motor every so often but I wonder how modern trains are fairing over those from the 70s, 80s and 90s as I suspect anything post 2000 doesn't need the same care and attention as something pre-2000.
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Maybe figured it out.
In this picture, the yellow on the front is more flat, so the middle is just above the gangway doors. There is blue on the front of the train here.
In other pictures, the yellow is much "taller" and follows the shape of the roof, making an almost semi-circle. There is no blue on the front, perhaps a smidgin of grey/black but not as much as the other.
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The 2nd and 3rd photo shows the destination LED following the roof line.
The 1st and last photo show the destination LED with a much bigger gap and "falling away" from the roof line towards the middle of the unit.
It would appear the actual unit is much more like the 1st and last photo but not sure which photos are of the new model as there's two different ones here.
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What decoder / ohms speaker are you planning to use?
Will there be space if people want to upgrade the speakers?
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On 19/12/2023 at 21:31, nickb4141 said:
Because you could only be ‘not interested’ if you actually saw the ‘expressions of interest’ in the first place! Revolution seem to have a very low profile compared to for example, Accurascale. At the end of the day, all manufacturers are selling their products to the same 00 gauge market, but I can’t imagine Accurascale only offering 2 liveries on an 00 DMU (if they ever produce one,) and Dapol are able to offer 7 liveries on an arguably more restricted EMU prototype, than the 175 and 180 DMU’s? So why is the 00 market so different to Revolution’s eyes?
The issue here is that your view point is jaded because they aren't producing something you are interested in.I see no stand out marketing for either Accurascale than Dapol or Revolution Trains - the only one I occasionally see is Hornby. But then I don't read railway modelling magazines. Enough people saw the EOI as the whole project has gone into production. I don't really follow model railway news but I still managed to see the EOI and get registered for it. Maybe people wanted other liveries more and can't afford two or three units these days?
Accurascale aren't selling to the same market as Revolution. I am not interested in yet another Pannier tank, but I am interested in a 180. Not the same market.
Different companies have different thresholds on what they want to / can risk.
Stamping your feet looking for an answer that you won't accept anyway isn't going to help anyone, brings nothing to the discussion and is quite simply getting boring now. Perhaps I should take my protests to Asda for not producing some Red Leicester with black pepper cheese this year, nor did they last year. It clearly didn't sell that well the year before that, so they didn't get it manufactured again. Do I stand around and complain about it? No. I just accept it and buy some other cheese instead.EOI didn't meet the threshold of [producing that livery] being worth it for Revolution (at this time).
Sorry if this seems harsh. I am here for updates about the project, not moans about a specific livery not being produced.
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On 10/11/2023 at 15:44, charliepetty said:
Not decided yet on Central Trains OR Express livery. WHAT DO YOU THINK ???
Central Trains RR (whatever you call it) (I removed the others).
I can wait but would prefer not to!
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On 02/12/2023 at 20:17, Roy L S said:
I would be interested to know which retailers Ben, because that doesn't accord with ones I know and have spoken to, who say it is steam/diesel transition that sells best
Try and find some MK5 sets at a good price.
The Class 68 isn't an easy find either.
That says, despite a lot of steam and early BR diesels selling "well" - whatever that means, it's actually bang up to date, currently running trains/units that seem to fly off shelves.
While not an interest of mine, the first manufacturer to sell the Electrostar unit will be able to milk that cash cow for a long time.
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On 01/12/2023 at 20:24, nickb4141 said:
I don’t think expressions of interest tell you anything - it’s easy for anyone to say ‘I’ll buy two of those and three of those’ but the fact that you had little response would suggest the message didn’t get out there to the intended audience.
Why didn't it mean people weren't interersted?
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Is there a list of the evolution of the status?
IE, how many steps to it being released?
At the moment, the OO is "in tooling" - I guess after that it's "assessing first EP", possibly some more EPs, then "awaiting livery samples" ?
Just looking for an in-order list.
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On 21/09/2023 at 09:42, Nigelcliffe said:
But, I wonder why you think you need "two". If a decent stay-alive will give 0.5 seconds of run-on (and many are much much more than this), and you've lost power for 0.5 seconds, then you've a track problem.
If it's a means to an end though?
If you develop a track problem, I'd rather have a stay-alive of 10 seconds than half a second if it means I don't have to rip up half the layout :P
0.5 seconds is barely worth it IMO but then I see the advantages of much longer stay alive times more than disadvantages.
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I think they're the same (IE 800 - 805), perhaps some minor differences internally (apart from the obvious power collectors)?
The Class 810 however does have a different sort of nose cone:
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I wonder if they'll branch out and do the Class 810 too...
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I received my Central Trains a week ago.
I can see Bachmann recycling that low mount motor for loads of units.
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On 11/08/2023 at 19:02, TomScrut said:
Keep a look in second hand shops/stalls, they'll appear in good nick I reckon. I find it remarkable the amount of stuff that is sold that never does much.
The old "opened to check" job!
I'm glad they've eventually released Central livery.
That, the 180 and 755 means 2024 is going to be an expensive year for me.
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Greater Anglia / TfW Class 755 & Class 756 FLIRT Units
in Hornby
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Just to confirm, I wasn't specifically asking when they'll arrive, just the latest update.
IE, have they been RTM or still in painted samples stage, or on a boat somewhere...
Will wait for after the show and see :)