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  1. Just some instant Customer feedback for you Andrew. I went into WH Smiths to collect my EIM today and purchased the only copy I saw on the shelves - the so called "Bumper" Edition. I also collected & paid for some other mags for the wife at the same time. Checking later at home, I realised that I'd been charged £5.99 for my EIM. I assume that is because I also received a copy of Garden Rail (July 2019) - one that I happened to already have. I'm guessing that you will tell me that the "ordinary" EIM was also available at the normal price of £3.99 (although if so - it wasn't obvious) but if that isn't the case, I may not be the only EIM reader to be a bit cheesed off by this practice. I will check more carefully next time I see an EIM "Bumper Edition" and will frankly think twice about buying it if the price is uplifted again... If you want to throw in a free mag - then fine. But I don't want to pay extra for something I don't want or need. Regards, IanT
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    The Gauge '3' Society's Model Railway Gathering and AGM Featuring The 'Rundle' & 'Chalfont' G3 Layouts Modelling Demonstrations Model Displays - Locomotives & Stock Bring & Buy Stand & Newsletter Back Issues Refreshments Available Free Parking for Guests & Exhibitors Traders include: Buxton Model Works Cliff Barker Cromford Designs Curlew Coaches - Tim Kraay Garfield Designs - Andy Boothman Brass Kits Ieuan Lewis Bookstall John Taylor Models Marston Models - Gavin Bashford Peter Korzilius' Models Walsall Model Industries Williams Models Woodbury Models - Andy Mould Member Show Donation £3.00 Visitors Welcome - Non-Member Show Entrance (Family Ticket) £5.00 Please note that entrance to the AGM meeting will be restricted to G3S Members only
  3. The Gauge '3' Society's Model Railway Exhibition & AGM Is being held this year at the Rufus Centre Steppingley Road, Flitwick, Bedfordshire, MK45 1AH on Saturday 23rd February 10am - 4pm Featuring 'Rundle' & 'Chalfont' G3 Layouts Modelling Demonstrations Model Displays - Locomotives & Stock Trade Stands Bring & Buy Stand & Newsletter Back Issues Refreshments Free Parking for Guests & Exhibitors Visitors Welcome - Non-Member Show Entrance (Family Ticket) £5.00 Please note that entrance to the AGM meeting will be restricted to G3S Members only See here for further details: https://www.gauge3.org.uk/g3-spring-event-and-agm
  4. Excellent work Pete - enjoying following this! Regards, IanT
  5. Lots of careful work required Pete - but it's going to be a lovely engine.. IanT
  6. Very nice - well done. IanT
  7. No model can ever be "exactly" to scale - and "easier" is of course relative. I've no idea how you'd compare 'scale' standards in any sort of 'league' but I do know that in both G3 & GL5 there have been standards of work achieved that would be very hard to surpass. This is clearly down to the particular craftsman involved - and of course great work (and dreadful stuff too) is done by folk in all sizes. In terms of 'easy' - a larger scale almost demands more attention to detail, simply because it's much more obvious if it's missing in a larger model. So it's not really about being 'easier' to model in a larger scale - more a matter of how much time the modeller wants to invest in a model to achieve the standard they require - it's not really different from working in a smaller scale - although the time involved does probably increase linearly with the relative volume of the model.... Regards, IanT
  8. Not sure that MSWJR has stated the exact scale of his model Stephen - but GL5 is normally built at 17/16th (1-1/16) these days....twice G3 in fact... :-) Regards, IanT
  9. Much of this (subject of gauges) has been lost in the mists of time Trevor and also (to some extent) confused by various people claiming credit for establishing THE 'standard'...... (Henry Greenly being one such) Early 'toy' trains usually didn't come with track, so the gauge of the engine was somewhat irrelevant. Marklin recognised that using a standard track gauge would be a big step forward in selling train sets and in 1891 introduced their Spur 1 sets, shortly followed by their Spur II & Spur III sets. Spur II was 64mm and Spur III 89mm. These are still the European (MOROP/NEM) standards - but I think it's worth noting that Marklin would have naturally used metric dimensions (not imperial ones). In the UK, early German imports would have either been built to no particular gauge or possibly to Marklin metric standards - however there was no real 'standard gauge' consensus in the UK modelling community at the turn of the century. In the July 16th 1903 ME - Percival Marshall (the Editor) raised the question of "scale and gauge" and stated that "some time ago the Society of Model Engineers recommended building to two gauges" (3.5" at 3/4" & 5" at 1" ). However his Editorial then sparked much ongoing correspondence amongst the eminent model locomotive builders of the day (EL Pearce, James Crebbin etc) with all sorts of strange proposals being made. Much of the debate was about the best 'scale' to build in (rather than any standardisation of gauge) - there didn't seem to be the notion of achieving common running standards except among a few close friends (no public tracks back then). However, in the Dec 11th 1903 ME - the Editor wrote an article entitled "Standard Scales and Gauges for Model Locomotives" where the correspondence and issues raised previously were discussed - and perhaps more importantly, the following was also clearly stated: "The small gauges are respectively termed 1-1/4 (No 0 gauge, 1-3/4 ins (No 1 gauge), 2 ins (No 2 gauge), 2-1/2 (No 3 gauge), and 3 ins (No 4 gauge) in model locomotive catalogues. The last named gauge, however is not 3" but 2-25/32nds between the rails. These standard gauges are used for 1/4, 3/8, 7/16, 1/2 and 9/16 models." So it seems clear that these 'standards' had started to establish themselves in the UK by the end of 1903. However, they are clearly imperial in nature and I suspect here lies the confusion between European & UK gauge standards - the fact that European "Spur" gauges look very similar to UK "Number" gauges. However they are not the same. (BTW - Early in 1904 Henry Greenly published the "ME Locomotive" in ME - using a 3-1/4" track gauge!) Sorry if this has been a bit off-topic - but there is a lot of poor information about in terms of how the larger scale track gauges developed here in the UK (different standards apply in the US) and I hope this helps clear some of this confusion up. Now back to building some excellent 5" gauge wagon stock... :-) Regards, IanT
  10. Absolutely right in terms of scale Trevor but historically Gauge '2' (in the UK) was 2" gauge. Gauge '3' has always been 2.5" in the UK. In the very early days, there was a good deal of confusion as to how model 'gauges' should be measured here in UK - these days the accepted gauge is the distance between the inside rail edges but at one time some manufacturers used the distance between rail centres (with an assumed rail width of about 2mm) so the quoted 'gauge' in early literature can be confusing. The change from 1/2" (to 17/32nd) scale in G3 generally happened between the wars but some well known (in their day) model engineers stayed with 1/2" scale after WW2 (CM Keiller here in the UK & Victor Shattock in the US). Regards, IanT
  11. I'm not sure I'd agree with that Andrew. Yes, there have been lots of large, glossy photos of 'Rallys' and some nice models - but in terms of interesting 'content' (e.g. stuff I will refer back to or re-read) - it's been a bit thin recently in my view. But Welcome - and all the best in your new job. I've always enjoyed EIM and look forward to doing so again. Regards, IanT
  12. Too rich for me Pete - I was upset when I naggered a £30 casting! Regards, IanT
  13. Very nice looking engine Pete - and those castings do look good (but expensive I suspect). Will watch your progress with interest. Regards, IanT
  14. I'm not sure I really understand your point N_S. I've always viewed 'G' (e.g. Metre Gauge on 45mm) as being essentially the same scale as G3. Of course, some US manufacturers have played fast & loose with "G" scale - so I do understand that bit. Fortunately in Gauge '3' we are unusual (unique?) in that we just have a single gauge & a single scale (63.5 & 1:22.6). There is no 'fine' scale vs 'coarse', 10mm vs 1/32, 00/EM/P4 - or numerous different N/G 'gauges' being squeezed onto either 45mm or 32mm track - all called "16mm". But clearly other folk are happy with the scale and gauge combinations they have chosen and that's great, I'm delighted for them. So if someone wants to model standard gauge railways at 1:22.5 on 63mm track - then I'd wish them well too (although I'd be puzzled as to why?) However, in my view - by definition - it wouldn't be "Gauge 3" - it would be something else... Regards, IanT
  15. "63mm is the new gauge 3 true 1:22.3 and equates to the G scale 1:22.5 so all the G-scale accessories are transferable." ​News to me - The Gauge 3 society track standard is 63.5mm (2.5") and if you buy track from Cliff Barker (recommended) then that is what you will get. It is also what every G3 modeller I know uses, both in their garden railways and exhibition tracks. This works out to a correct scale of 1:22.6 which I agree, is certainly near enough to 'G' scale (at 1:22.5) for both to use common accessories. GRS were an early supporter of G3 but there are now many other G3 suppliers around these days, including Williams Models, Walsall Industries, Slaters and others. I'd recommend a look at Western Thunder (in the G3 section) to see some very nice examples of G3 modelling - but it's possible to make much simpler G3 models too - whatever takes your fancy. Regards, IanT
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