Grovenor
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There are registered trade marks and there is copyright, its easy to muddle the two and I suspect much of the above relates to copyright. For trade marks the registration has to specify what trades the mark is to be used for and an infringement only occurs if used without permission for one of those specified trades.
You can look up the trade mark register on line and check what uses are protected.
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11 hours ago, simon b said:
Just so I understand things fully a train cannot arrive directly into the siding as the ground frame must be locked to clear the signal into the platform, but a train can depart from the siding directly as the platform starter is not interlocked with the groundframe.
Exactly, for the inbound move with the loco pushing the consist should stop just before the points then the signaller replace the entry signal and release the ground frame to the shunter
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7 hours ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:
Am I right in thinking that the ground frame would need to be interlocked with the platform starter?
Obviously the ground frame is interlocked with the home signal.
The ground frame needs to be locked normal for any move entering the platform so that would be home signal or any shunt signal giving access. Once a train has arrived in the platform the shunter can be given the ground frame release and do the shunting.
No need to lock the platform starter as its not conflicting and may be needed in case the train needs to pass the signal before the tail end has cleared the siding.. The shunter will need to put the ground frame back to normal or any subsequent arrivals will be locked out.
If the points were operated from the signal box then it would be usual for the starter to lock the points in either position for route holding. But this doesn't work with a GF and its the shunter on the ground who has the responsibility for not moving the points under a train.
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Well, the railway is going underneath so they have to get well below track level to create foundations for the piers and/or abutments.
But see also comments earlier in this topic relating to the way the design life warranties that contractors have had to provide have pushed up the design standards and hence the costs.
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It has, see
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On 31/03/2024 at 22:43, PhilJ W said:
None of those roads connect with the rest of Benfleet. The first road that connects directly from Bread and Cheese hill is Kents Hill Road at the traffic lights at the foot of the hill. Parts of those roads are no more than footpaths and some are very steep, steeper than 1 in 4 in some cases. These however are shown on many maps as through roads. Most of the houses near to the A13 are new builds whereas the bulk of Benfleet was built up by speculative builders in the 1950's.
So you tell me to look East from the pub, and when I give chapter and verse you talk about a road that is well to the West. I give up, I know what I can see on the aerial photo.
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Ok going East from the Bread and Cheese there are the folowing;
Kenneth Rd, Badley Avenue, Konny Brk, to the North,
Cherrymeade, The Dl, to the South,
Runnymeade Ch - N
Hermitage Avenue - S.
The heavily wooded area has no roads in it,
There is no sign of any roads that match the description,
Quotebut because of the terrain none of the roads connect directly to the A13. However the A-Z shows most of the roads accessible from the A13. There is in fact pedestrian access from some roads via very steep footpaths and in one case steps
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13 hours ago, Tumut said:
Dear beast66606, and others,
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3 / in relation to the context of the IRSE articles, these were in reference to 4aspect colour light signals ( y/g/y/r configuration) in the rear of a 4 aspect colour light junction signal ( also y/g/y/r configuration ), and one article discussing Flashing Yellow Aspects also called the 4 aspect signal in the rear a Distant Signal. ...................................
Best wishes and regards from Australia.
That must be from articles dealing with junction signalling in track circuit block areas, nothing to do with manual block signalling. The use of 'distant' signal by the author is just by analogy and really incorrect usage. But useful colloquially as, so far as I know, there is no other simple term in UK usage for a signal on the approach to a junction signal that gives advance information on the aspect displayed at the junction.
Google should find you the relevant signalling standards documents and I doubt that the term 'distant' is used there.
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19 hours ago, PhilJ W said:
Not just Sat Navs. I have a copy of the Essex A-Z street map only a couple of years old. In south Essex there is a steep part of the A13 between Benfleet and Thundersly called Bread & Cheese Hill (named after a pub that no longer exists). Since the 1950's the area either side of the hill has been built up considerably but because of the terrain none of the roads connect directly to the A13. However the A-Z shows most of the roads accessible from the A13. There is in fact pedestrian access from some roads via very steep footpaths and in one case steps but the A-Z gives the impression that these are through roads.
I have failed to find these disconnected roads on google maps, all the side roads in the area seem to have perfectly good junctions with the A13. Could you perhaps provide a link to the specific area you are describing? Thanks
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Info here on the LMS standard for block controls
http://www.norgrove.me.uk/signalli-LMS.htm
Does not cover single lines though.
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On 19/03/2024 at 09:49, melmerby said:
And both the old alignment and some of the old canal are still very evident on the ground going by googles aerial view.
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No problem, surplus IRJs don't matter so long as you have feed wires connected to all rails.
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I have always used the triangular gauges to set the crossing nose position, they do the job perfecly well and will hold the nose much better than those buttons.
See http://www.norgrove.me.uk/points.html
Towards the bottom of the page.
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That sounds very like Sam.
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Rather depends on the scale you are building in as well. Looks like Dungrange has assumed 1:76. 😄
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Well now, when I checked the link just now it is all about signals, no mention of signs, someone must read this. 😃
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Why say "No" and then carry on to agree with me? It seems we agree that a reverse loop needs two frog juicers, and you had spares so used them. Granted the OP did say two frog juicers in his opening post but its not clear that he already has them.
No one has suggested you should change what you have, this topic was about answering the OP's question.
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19 hours ago, franciswilliamwebb said:
A frog juicer IS a device to change track polarity, simple. Certainly my go-to device for reverse loops.
A frog juicer IS a device to change frog polarity. You should make it clear that "A frog juicer" will not do a reversing section, you need to use two of them. Reverse loop modules are designed for the job. Unless you already have spare frog juicers then might as well buy the right thing.
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You don't want a frog juicer for this, you want a reverse loop module. You only need the one reverse loop module, any sidings connected to the reversing section will just reverse along with it, which is not a concern.
But equally you could connect the sidings to the top section of the main oval.
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Or copy Malbourne and lift the railway up out of the way, with public open space under it giving enhanced amenity and crossing opportunities between the two halves of the town. 🤨
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2 hours ago, jamie92208 said:
Despite not knowing exactly where it is it does show two quite long sections of completed trackbed in cuttings that are greening up nicely.
Jamie
I hope that's not completed trackbed, it looks to need drainage installing or services will stop after every rain.
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15 hours ago, jcredfer said:
Quote from Scarborough News “The crossing is designed so that there is a lot of space between the level crossing barrier and the actual tracks-.... "
Just really an automatic result of the crossing angle, had it been a square crossing there would not have been room.
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Print them from Templot.
Use of Trademarks
in Modelling Questions, Help and Tips
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Owning a locomotive does not automatically give any rights to either the copyright in the livery design or its name as a trademark. The copyright for LBSC livery as an example may well have expired and if not may or may not have been sold with tloco.
Following the link given above the Science Museum have clearly registered the trademark "Mallard" with the express intention of milking it as best they can (or, if being kind, preventing tohe production of lots of tat#) as is evident from the vast list of goods and servicers they claim it relates to. Of which class 28 is the one of interest to us.
'Flying Scotsman is rather more complicated, there are 14 registrations, not all current, of which 6 include class 28. So using Flying Scotsman as a trademark for a model you may need permissions from 6 others!