Wheres_Wally

There is some interesting editorial in The Lancet https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30151-8/fulltext "Often it is difficult to offer solutions, but it is straightforward in this case: interventions that have been in use since early in the pandemic, most crucially physical distancing and hand hygiene, must continue indefinitely. " " It is time to forcefully impress on people that basic measures to limit the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 are here to stay. This is the new normal." If this is what medical science is saying, is there any point in more discussion? Model railway shows are history.

But you are a blue box fan critically commenting in a topic about a red box loco you have said you don't want to own. Unless you have evidence, then that may be just your perception. No manufacturer is problem free.

I was told by someone in the motor industry that for quality go for a car built on a robot production line. Hand made cars can be 3/4 inch different in lengths between the sides.

Until there is a vaccine is developed, and there are plenty on here who say this will never happen, and it is rolled out to at least 65% of the population, then I can't see large indoor gatherings being possible. Even the most optimistic guess for development is the autumn. After that you need to jab 40 million people. How long for that, remembering the low takeup of MMR? A year? Two? Never? By that point traders will have evolved their businesses to do without shows. Exhibition stock will have been absorbed into the general stock. How many will want to set up to do shows all over again when they have managed without perfectly well for 12-18 months? Exhibitions are hard work with no guarantee of a financial return. If you don't need them, why bother? No trade=no show. At least no show of any sice unless people are willing to pay a lot more for admission. Can't see many on here doing that, there's enough moaning about price now!

It's probably safe to say there won't be any shows this year and probably most of next. If the trade can survive without them, will any want the hassle of going back in the future? I doubt it. But without trade you can't run a show so I don't think shows will ever come back.

Strictly speaking, since we have water in the taps, the only ESSENTIAL item anyone should be allowed to buy is bread. Given those two, you can survive. I suspect those who have set themselves up as the essentials police won't like that idea. Deciding what is and isn't essential is more about claiming some moral high ground.

Easy to say, but what can they really do? Ban everyone from leaving the house for a month? Difficult as someone has to run electric and water supplies. Also, how many people have enough food if the decree was made tomorrow? On a smaller scale, should we refuse to bring anyone "home" if they are currently stuck in an infected area such as a cruise ship or hotel? If someone does show symptoms, the fastest and MOST effective way to ensure they don't spread anything would be execution followed by burning the corpse. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a popular option though. Even the Chinese didn't opt for that.

My entirely unscientific observations would be that this is bad news for model railway shows where nearly half those using the gents don't bother washing their hands. An even lower figure was noted a large toyfair, which made me wary of handling items for sale later!

Why is it important right now? I don't know the price if KitKats in a decade, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't make them now. If someone DOES set a price, are they forced to stick to it if something alters the calculations?

1) It's coming out of one of the most expensive cities in the world and travels through a lot of very expensive bits of land. Abroad, much of the track was laid in relatively clear, and therefore cheap areas. We don't have those in the UK. 2) The French want progress. Local mayors competed to have lines in their districts. We compete to live in the 1930s. 3) The British are rubbish at stuff. It hurts to agree with Boris, but when he said all major projects go through the stage of everyone hating them, he's right. I bet no-one can name any significant project that enjoyed universal appeal pretty much until it was finished. No motorway did. Even the Olympics was loathed until about 2 weeks before it kicked off.

The project would cost 50 quid if it wasn't for all the consultancy and lawyers fees..

And there we have the dilemma. How do you decide what is "enough" detail? Leave anything off and you have people on here baying for blood. Put it on, and increase the price because someone has to to the work, and there are moans about the price. The only certainty is the someone will be unhappy and make a lot of noise about it.

How much would leaving the wagon out reduce the price? I bet it would be around a fiver. Then watch the "Why didn't Hornby put the wagon in with the loco" comments.

Surely that's the layout owners problem? If they want to take the model on the road then the layout will need to be modified as required. If they can't make it work then don't accept the invite. No one's forcing them to go.

It gives those us who love Thunderbirds AND pasties a dilemma. Which inspirational wagon load from this series do we build first?