wagonman 1,974 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Edwardian said: "dawn"? Sorry, you'll have to explain what that is. It's what you see when you're a bit later than usual coming home after a night on the lash... Well, that's when I used to see it. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Edwardian 37,284 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, wagonman said: It's what you see when you're a bit later than usual coming home after a night on the lash... Well, that's when I used to see it. Ah, thanks, often wondered what that was. My children are of the present generation of Clean Living Youth. It's so disheartening. I tried to explain to them the importance of university as a 3-year subsidised drinking holiday, but they just don't get it. I begin to feel like an old decayed Regency Rake living among prim young Victorians. Your humble and obedient servant, Newman Noggs, Esq. 2 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites
sem34090 5,874 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Well you'll be heartened to know that on Thursday night, the last full night before lockdown, the streets of Aberystwyth were filled with p*ssed students, all nicely spreading the plague before going home to incubate it for a fortnight... Thankfully the lockdown is 17 days rather than 14 so most of them should develop symptoms before it ends. So encouraging to see such drunkenness remaining a tradition. On a lighter note it did see an interesting form of Eveningsong; I heard at least three Welsh Hymns... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Regularity 6,655 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Edwardian said: I tried to explain to them the importance of university as a 3-year subsidised drinking holiday, but they just don't get it. I my mid-late 20s I worked in a university, and I was appalled to discover that even in the early 90s, students were going to university to gain a good degree. They seemed to have grasped the essential idea that actually getting to university usually mean a degree was inevitable, but had overlooked the key benefit to employers of 3 (or more) years spent mostly having a good time getting inebriated (ideally the inebriation should be such that no knowledge was retained about whether the time was good or not): if you have done it on your own time, you won't be doing it on their time. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sem34090 5,874 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Interesting theory... For my own part it's just been that my social circle has never been substantial enough to see me attend events with mass drinking. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Skinnylinny 5,391 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: I tried to explain to them the importance of university as a 3-year subsidised drinking holiday, but they just don't get it. Subsidised? No grant for me, all loans (which barely covered rent - I worked out at one point that my loan paid my rent and left me £35 a year for food and beer!), and with tuition fees of over £9,000 p.a., doesn't sound very subsidised to me! That being said, I got by with only a part time job, probably helped by the fact I have the alcohol tolerance of a small pigeon with a liver problem, so drinking was never very expensive... Edited October 26, 2020 by Skinnylinny 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Edwardian 37,284 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Skinnylinny said: Subsidised? No grant for me, all loans (which barely covered rent - I worked out at one point that my loan paid my rent and left me £35 a year for food and beer!), and with tuition fees of over £9,000 p.a., doesn't sound very subsidised to me! I was referring to the cost of the beer! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
TurboSnail 3,808 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Subsidised by 'grad tax' maybe, which the increased salary expectations of higher level jobs easily cover. I never did much drinking before university, as I was the only person with a car, transporting friends to various houses/fields/beaches etc. The upside of which was, upon being asked for petrol money, inebriated people often vastly overestimate the amount of fuel used by a 1.3L Ford KA. I went to university for the promise of being allowed to make racecars and robots at someone else's cost, which was enjoyable but didn't leave much time for alcohol-based entertainment (though the workshop bins told a certain story most Saturday mornings). I've since rediscovered the joys of a large bottle of cider, largely by combining it with the aroma of plastic cement or 3D printer resin. It tends to make me look less harshly on my modelling too! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
webbcompound 1,528 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Nearholmer said: I had always assumed that colonial mariners used the term “road” in much the way that railwaymen do, to mean “route”. 5 hours ago, Compound2632 said: That was my thinking too. Also "road" in the sense of an anchorage, though I think that's usually in the plural. And in the context of the other nautical references throughout the song this makes eminent sense. Unfortunately the first verse blows it "By the old Moulmein Pagoda Looking eastward to the sea There's a Burma gal a settin' And I know that she waits for me" As we know the Burma gal would be looking westward. What this tells us is popular song is not a reliable source of navigation advice. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Regularity 6,655 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Edwardian said: I was referring to the cost of the beer! I think you are confusing reduced cost with watering down... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jcredfer 4,420 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Apologies for not replying to your comment about the Sun being seen under the clouds, I have been rather busy away from the keyboard. It would seem that there were plenty of answers from other knowing gents and so perhaps not much missed. I think you may be right about remembering spectacular weather events can make them seem more frequent, as they are more memorable. There is one other factor which may also contribute to the low cloud effect. It is possible that on "some" of those occasions the Earth's curvature may also come into play. Low cloud, normally 1,000 ft or less is often the lower end of a sloping Front, as heavier cold air causes warmer air, pressing against it, to rise over it. That layer of cloud in the distance may well be rather higher and give more vertical space for the Sun to be seen. It may also be quite distant and would still then, look closer to the horizon, as it follows over the Earth's curve. I suppose to round that off, a Front is of a limited width from it's leading edge to the rear, which would contribute to why the Sun could appear in clear air beyond. My brain hurts, I'm off to cook dinner. Julian 2 Link to post Share on other sites
St Enodoc 25,637 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 hours ago, webbcompound said: And in the context of the other nautical references throughout the song this makes eminent sense. Unfortunately the first verse blows it "By the old Moulmein Pagoda Looking eastward to the sea There's a Burma gal a settin' And I know that she waits for me" As we know the Burma gal would be looking westward. What this tells us is popular song is not a reliable source of navigation advice. True enough in that case but "Spanish Ladies" is a pretty good guide to the Western Approaches and the English Channel. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Schooner 857 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) ...although it is pretty clever to close Dodman without seeing the Lizard... Edited October 26, 2020 by Schooner I actually meant to pop by to say how much I enjoyed the recent outbreak of world/railway building amongst the esoterica. Top stuff from all concerned 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
St Enodoc 25,637 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Schooner said: ...although it is pretty clever to close Dodman without seeing the Lizard... Fog in the Channel. Continent cut off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nick_bastable 2,154 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Fog in the Channel. Continent cut off. na I can still see the lights in Calais Nick B 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DonB 1,708 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I've been to Calais .... enough said ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
lanchester 209 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 23 hours ago, webbcompound said: And in the context of the other nautical references throughout the song this makes eminent sense. Unfortunately the first verse blows it "By the old Moulmein Pagoda Looking eastward to the sea There's a Burma gal a settin' And I know that she waits for me" As we know the Burma gal would be looking westward. What this tells us is popular song is not a reliable source of navigation advice. In my copy of 'Mandalay', it reads '....lookin' lazy at the sea...' which removes the problem. It's probably been rewritten by those fine geographers who gave us 'Krakatoa, East of Java'. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
rocor 1,144 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 11:04, sem34090 said: This has all been occurring to me since I took it... As I say I was going for something relating to espionage (Hence why everything else in the shot is British) but you're quite right. Currently seeing if I can go for "BR Goods Office". And in B&W; If anyone can suggest how they fit the theme of "Home"... I keep coming back to your photograph, First I thought that it was a photo montage featuring an image of Graham Moffatt. After I googled his picture, I could see that it wasn't. How did you make your likeness portray in the photograph look like it is a highly detailed model?. Was it a clever use of makeup? (many years ago, the first time that I saw a 'robot' dancer, it did momentarily have me wondering, is this real?, that was largely down to the makeup that she wore). Did you achieve the effect with photo editing software?. Link to post Share on other sites
sem34090 5,874 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Nothing so fancy as that; I definitely didn't use make up! All I did was adjust brightness, contrast, highlights, shadows etc in my mobile's basic photo editor; Not much more than a skilled person could achieve in a darkroom I should think. No full scale manipulation or anything like that! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Edwardian 37,284 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 RIP Geoffrey Palmer 2 4 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites
nick_bastable 2,154 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) thank goodness for some communication even if sad news I came to believe the parish was in lockdown Nick B Edited November 6, 2020 by nick_bastable 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Compound2632 26,675 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Ah, Butterflies. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Edwardian 37,284 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 I've had a b1tch of a week at work, but, on the bright side, only 20 minutes to .... Hope everyone is well? 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
wagonman 1,974 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, Edwardian said: RIP Geoffrey Palmer Vorsprung durch Technik. On the upside, he made it to 93. Link to post Share on other sites
nick_bastable 2,154 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, Edwardian said: I've had a b1tch of a week at work, but, on the bright side, only 20 minutes to .... Hope everyone is well? blimey the wine was opened at 1615 today Nick B Link to post Share on other sites
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