Tetbury

[Harlequin]

12 hours ago, Captainalbino said:

Now the backscenes are in place, I can now explore areas of the layout that I haven't been able to photograph previously, such as the iconic goodshed.

 

 

I'm not sure about those flowering plants...

 

[Chris Chewter]

Which ones or both? The yellow was suppose to be dandelions but are too big really. The purple were suppose to be something like a fox glove growing in the shadow of the sleeper panel.

[Harlequin]

21 minutes ago, Captainalbino said:

Which ones or both? The yellow was suppose to be dandelions but are too big really. The purple were suppose to be something like a fox glove growing in the shadow of the sleeper panel.

Both! 

I don't think flowering plants really show that density and intensity of colour in real life. Some highly-bred garden plants might, but not natives.

You might be able to do dandelions better with just tiny dots of yellow scattered over the grass - just like my lawn!

Foxgloves often only have a few flowers open on the spike at any one time, the rest are buds or gone over.

 

[Chris Chewter]

Yesterday was a bit frantic at work, even though it only involved sitting in front of a computer, so I didn't make any progress with tidying up the layout last night. So just a general overall photo this morning.

 

 

[Chris Chewter]

I’ve always been slightly annoyed that the fluorescent strip light could never illuminate the goods yard area properly.
 

I’ve been shopping around for a while weighing up options. Even fish tank lights were considered at one point! In the end I found some 20w builders work lights on sale, so could light the layout for a reasonable £30!

 

 

And I now have lighting to the goods yard.

 

 

 

Hopefully you’ll agree that looks better than the glow from the fluorescent strip light.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Captainalbino

[Chris Chewter]

After sorting out the lighting and some gaps on the layout yesterday, it tipped down with rain, so I decided to have a running session whilst waiting for weather to improve.

 

 

The canyon on the platform has been filled with some decorators caulk. It’s still visible but not quite as bad as it was before. I might give it another go later today.

 

 

[Chris Chewter]

 

 

Spent the evening taking videos of the layout to help me identify what else needs tidying up.

[Chris Chewter]

Whilst studying some photos of Tetbury, it appears that the two facing points are fitted with point locks and controlled by a ground frame. I think the ground frame is the cabinet by the bush in this photo, but to be honest I’m not totally sure.

 

 

At least that’s where all the point rodding seems to run to.

 

So some Wills point rodding was purchased. It’s chuffing fiddly to put together, and this is as good as the top half is going to get for the moment.

 

 

All I can say is, fit your point rodding before you install your scenics!

Edited June 13, 2020 by Captainalbino

[Chris Chewter]

In trying to solve the mystery of the ground frame, I've managed to find a fleeting glimpse of it in the B&R video Gloucestershire Byways, but there is only a pair, when I would expect to see four (Two point levers and two facing point locks)

 

 

It appears to be connected to the rodding that travels below the engine shed, along the side of the track to the point that controls the movement to the goods yard.  Also, the point lock to the right has been removed, which would make sense as the goods shed was closed when the railcar was introduced, and only entry into the goods yard was then required. (I presume it would be clamped, but theres nothing in the photo)

 

If you read Randolph, that suggests that there was two ground frames, and the other one was around here:

 

 

But you can see the rodding continuing, and no ground frame in any of the photos.  I can only assume after pouring over numerous photos, that this caption in Randolph is incorrect.

 

As its not totally clear, I think I'll use my interpretation of a singular four lever frame, after all, my trackwork had to receive a bit of interpretation to prevent points being laid over a baseboard joint.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Captainalbino
Comment about point clamping added.

[Siberian Snooper]

The two turnouts that form the crossover will be worked by one lever, the same as would happen if they were worked from a signal box and the facing point lock is only required on the turnout over which passenger trains run.

 

 

[Chris Chewter]

So are you saying the pair of levers operate the cross over to the right hand side, with one lever operating the facing point lock? Then I presume the point rodding is a relic of the old signalling arrangement.

Either that or there are no point locks, and the left hand lever operates a point further down the platform, leaving the fireman with a very long walk.

[Siberian Snooper]

11 hours ago, Captainalbino said:

So are you saying the pair of levers operate the cross over to the right hand side, with one lever operating the facing point lock? Then I presume the point rodding is a relic of the old signalling arrangement.

Either that or there are no point locks, and the left hand lever operates a point further down the platform, leaving the fireman with a very long walk.

 

The facing point lock is under the ramp. Are you saying that the 2nd turnout also carries passenger traffic? Do you have a track plan, that you can post?

 

 

[Chris Chewter]

Below is the layout with the points numbered. Point 2 and 3 are on the main, and appear to have point locks, because the photos show ramps over these.

 

 

The photo shows there is a two lever frame adjacent to point 7.

 

Randolph suggests there was another frame near point 2, but there are no photos showing this.

 

There is rodding running from point 2, alongside the track, past the engine shed and down to point 7, which I cannot understand why its there, unless the two levers operated points 2 and 3, and no locks were used.

 

 

[Mulgabill]

I am going to put my thoughts up, to be shot down!

 

Could it be that the rodding  refered to may provide a form of

interlocking. So the 2 ground frames couldn't be set for conflicting

moves.

 

That would then allow for the 2 2lever groundframes to have point &

point lock levers, to operate the facing mainlne points.

 

If you don't get any other suggestions, you could try a pm to Paul (5BarVT on here)

(And he won't be guessing, like me).

 

All the best

 

TONY

[Chris Chewter]

Whilst eating lunch, working from home, I've had another rummage through the photographs.

 

The B&R video just shows the location where the upper frame as a black void.

 

 

However this photo below seems to show something, but its really unclear.

 

 

In which case the rodding that runs along the engine shed could be an interlock with the other ground frame? I presume you can't see the levers clearly as they push into the undergrowth.

 

The original can be found here on Flickr:

 

 

You can see the rodding that runs past the engine shed is a single run. Perhaps more evidence that this is an interlocking arrangement?

Edited June 15, 2020 by Captainalbino

[Siberian Snooper]

I have dug out my copy of Stephen Williams part 2 volume of branchline modelling and there is definitely a rodding run from points 3 and 6 down to points 2 and 3 and there looks like a point lock on 2. That leads me to believe that points 2 might have an economical fpl, worked from the rod.

 

 

[Chris Chewter]

So one lever frame of two levers and a long walk for the fireman if the loco is accessing the goods yard. At the end of the day, I should model what I can see, and I can’t be certain that there is a secondary frame in the area I’ve circled in the earlier photo. Now I’ve got to do the back breaking task of fitting it!

[Siberian Snooper]

The fireman would probably drop off the footplate as the loco passed the frame, remembering to take the Annettes key with him.

 

 

[Siberian Snooper]

Spellin neva woz me strong point.

 

[chuffinghell]

17 minutes ago, Siberian Snooper said:

Spellin neva woz me strong point.

 

That looks perfect to me but then I’m dyslexic

 

Ironically the only word I don’t have trouble spelling is dyslexia 

[Regularity]

15 hours ago, chuffinghell said:

Ironically the only word I don’t have trouble spelling is dyslexia

That always struck me as a cruel way to spell the word for that condition.

[Chris Chewter]

I’ve been a bit quiet lately as I’ve been awaiting another pack of point rodding to arrive in the post, so I’ve been assembling a horse drawn cart for the coal yard.

 

 

Now the second pack of rodding has arrived, I’ve been fitting the rodding to the other crossover.

 

 

 

Sorry if it’s another blurred photo. It’s really awkward to get the right angle, and had to put the iPhone into selfie mode to get this one!

[Chris Chewter]

Coal wagon cameo completed.

 

[Chris Chewter]

After doing some tidying up some features like the speed limit sign.

 

 

Now showing the correct 15mph.

 

And the ground frame has been fitted:

 

 

Also, the Doubleday photo shows a figure walking down the access road that looks very much like a Modelu figure that was already in my possession. He has been trialled in at least two previous photos, but I think here he shall stay.

 

Firstly, the Doubleday photo;

 

 

And the Modelu figure

 

 

I also took a couple of nice photos off the iPhone. I might try again with the Nikon and run a photo stack with the locos in the same position. Im out of time today, so I’ll give it a go tomorrow and post the results if they’re any good.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Captainalbino
Better resolution images uploaded

[Chris Chewter]

Here are the two photos I took yesterday with the iPhone that seemed to turn out fairly well. I’ve tried the same views today using focus stacking but they haven’t turned out good enough.

 

5532 running around it’s train.

 

 

Where as in this shot, the railcar is passing the goods shed on its journey to Kemble.