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Portland - a 'what might have been' NSE layout in Dorset

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Hi Rich

 

Layout looks to be coming along nicely and good backstory to justify the traffic, been there done that a couple of years ago! I'll come and have a chat and a closer look at Brockenhurst as I'll be there with Tidworth too, we can 'celebrate' the 30 year anniversary of NSE with a beer! Will you be operating from the front at exhibitions like at home or hiding round the back? Keep the pics coming of the layout and your NSE stock.

 

Sorry meant to say there's nothing like an exhibition invite to keep the progress moving in the right direction, although I had a years notice of the first show not 3 months!

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Hi,

 

Nice layout and an interesting subject. For a little more historical "accuracy" the oil sidings,  as you probably know there was a tank farm by the line, it was MoD for fuelling warships and for helicopters at the Navy base.

An NSE 205 unit would look quite at home as would something Regional Railways, 101/121/150, for Bristol services. 73's didn't like Weymouth much, for a short time they did have a regular parcels run but with only a few vans.The climb to Bincombe was a bit of a struggle for them, Lord knows how they would have coped with the Rodwell bank.

You could of course go the whole hog and electrify the main line and two platform faces. You look to have enough space for an NSE VEP.

Cheers

Stu

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Hi guys,

 

Thanks for your comments. Temeraire I believe we are parked up next to each other at Brockenhurst so it will be an NSE fest! The panel can be located on either the front or the rear, I will most likely operate from the rear, but with 3 drivers one could always man the front. Indeed 3 months is not a lot of time, but it's certainly given me a kick up the arse!

 

Stu thanks for the info. Stock wise you have hit the nail on the head. I do own a thumper but it is not in NSE (yet), along with some of the Regie Rail units you have mentioned. The thought was to electrify as I'm a fan of all things SR EMU, I may go down that route in due course, but not giving myself too much to do before the show.The plan was to run a 33 + 4TC but haven't built the TC yet so a VEP could work. The bay will take this, the main platform will actually take loco plus 6, but due to the length of the fiddle yard traverser, loco + 5 is the longest train that will run.

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I do own a thumper but it is not in NSE (yet)

 

Hi Rich, same here, I've had it in bits for more than a year and it has a part finished centre coach, I really must get it completed! Maybe services could run from Tidworth to Portland if we're that close at Brockenhurst, Class 50 hauled or 33+4TC?

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You kept "Portland" quiet! Excellent looking layout. Good luck with the deadline.

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Hi Rich, same here, I've had it in bits for more than a year and it has a part finished centre coach, I really must get it completed! Maybe services could run from Tidworth to Portland if we're that close at Brockenhurst, Class 50 hauled or 33+4TC?

 

Haha yes a great idea! Perhaps we could build a link board !

 

Thanks Pete, the show in May has spurred me on and I thought I'd share the progress as I go. Speaking of which, here's today's heavy engineering project!

 

As highlighted in my track diagram, the layout as standard is L shape built to fit within what was the confines of my bedroom (have since left home and layout sits in much bigger room - should've built a bigger one!). It can be operated 'as is', however would soon get boring shuttling the same train back and forth, so inevitably a fiddle yard extension needs building to accommodate some more trains! The traverser swings outward, and so two additional 44 inch long boards have been cut and are awaiting framework (they were 48 inch but needed 4 inches for something else!) These will join together via hinge for ease of transport and storage when not in use, and will bolt on to the layout for exhibition, with some additional support somewhere to get the whole thing stable. 

Now, whilst all this seems relatively easy, one must bear in mind the traverser is to be hidden by an embankment, and with the traverser swinging outward it meant a different approach was required to supporting the top of this embankment, which will carry a lane and the rear of some low relief houses. The lane will run parallel to the carriage siding, and cross the mainline at an odd angle to act as the scenic break.

So, numerous trips to various DIY stores to obtain some aluminum angle, some sturdy L shaped brackets, nuts & bolts and whatever else I needed and here is the finished framework fitted in place. A thin sheet of ply or similar will cover the top and act as the base to the scenery, and I will most likely use foam to create a 45 degree angle embankment down to the line, with a small retaining Portland stone wall, marked roughly by the pieces of wood.

 

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Here's an image showing the fiddle yard board proposal. Should be calling into B&Q on Thursday for a length of wood I need and these can then have the framwork added and be constructed. The sidings at this stage will not be electrified as they will just hold stock, locos will sits in the smaller fiddle yard on the actual layout, top right of the board

 

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Clearing the other two boards up currently so may take some further photos of those in due course.

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Crack on Chard. The public is waiting.

 

Cheers

Dave

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Well engineered lighting framework. Have you decided the components you will use to build the 4TC ?

 

Really like the idea of a "might of been" based on a real line.

 

Look forward to seeing build updates.

 

Eddie

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Evening all,

 

An update of some work carried out towards the end of last week with the fiddle yard. Construction of the collapsible additional fiddle yard boards has been completed, which 'hook' on to the edge of the layout. Trackwork (standard Peco code 100) to be added and a means to connect the track ends to the traverser. I have also added track to the loco stabling area of the fiddle yard, and a single road cassette for movement of locos from one end to the other if necessary.

 

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Work was also carried out to enable the control panel to be mounted on the back of the layout, and the right way up, ie upside down to how it usually sits. Still can't get used to looking at it the wrong way round! A few LEDs to sort out here, but there are 3 colours for differing sections of the layout - blue for mainline movements into either of the platforms of MPD sidings, white for movements from the carriage siding to the platforms, and yellow for yard/MPD movements. The MPD is currently wired with purple LEDs but I will change this back to yellow for clarity.

 

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This work completes most of the 'structural' work to the layout to make it exhibitable, just a few bits to do when the layout can be fully set up. Attention will now turn to completing the scenic work, starting with the completion of track painting and ballasting of the yard, and building the embankment.

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What about some oil tankers for the heli base ? Another plausible freight

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Hi Rob,

 

Thanks for the tip, certainly an option to consider. There are 2 sidings for oil tank storage which will feature on the layout. I have a book arriving this week about 'traffic' (road and rail) on Portland, so will be a little more versed on the workings and industry of the Isle.

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Today's progress. Thanks to eldavo for supplying me with some leftover foam and the basic structure of the embankment is starting to take shape. Topped with some balsa wood this will form some sort of backstreet/lane/footpath in due course. 

Also started on adding the fiddle yard bits, until my saw blade snapped whilst attacking the aluminum, so off to B&Q to get a replacement at at the weekend! 

Lastly, have sprayed the remaining trackwork black in readiness for painting/ballasting/mucking up.

 

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Hi Rich,

 

Enjoying reading this already - particularly impressed with the quality of the build. Looking forward to seeing more.

 

Another Rich

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very cool Weymouth is my favourite place ive got some great friends in Portland and excellent memorys of weeks down there ans nights out in the town I love the place so will be watching this layout

 

all the best

phil

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Thanks chaps, glad to hear you're enjoying the thread.

 

Today's progress. In amongst photographing Class 60's...https://www.flickr.com/photos/headcode92 I've been working on the embankment structure and making it a base to start adding some green stuffs. A trip to Hobbycraft to obtain some plaster of paris bandages and here's the result. Excuse the lighting - I can't get the second lighting rig up in the room the layout sits in - it's too long! (another design flaw lol)

 

 

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The structure of the footbridge is in, and now awaits some sides on order from the States. Looked at the WIlls kit but they look far too big for a footbridge so went for some Micro Engineering Bridge Plate Girders, should arrive within a couple of weeks. 

Also picked up a Kernow signal box at Ally Pally (with a bit of help from Mr Dedman - thanks John) which I thought would fit nicely into Portland. The actual box is horrendously boring and I didn't want such a mundane structure for the box, so went a little fancier. Will receive some colours that bring it up to a bit more 90s rather than GWR!

 

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Here's a shot of the fueler - an extended Knightwing kit

 

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And lastly some NSE detail starting to appear! Chinese ebay job with a bit of editing and painting into NSE red, look the part. Oh and they do work  :sungum:

 

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That's all, back to work for a few days, joy.

 

Rich

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What is this "work" of which you speak? Good progress mate though plaster bandage sounds a bit retro!

 

Cheers

Dave

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If you're considering electrifying one day you'll need a 442, much more common down there than the mark 1 units ever were.

An interesting concept though, I imagine I'll see it in person some day and looking forward to that.

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Zomboid, already thought of that...luckily I bought the 442 bits from Hurst some years ago seemingly before they became unobtainable. It's built and currently in SWT livery, but was one of my early goes at modelling so needs a bit of work. It would like good behind a Crompton!

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Good progress today. The embankment has been primed and painted an earthy colour. It will shortly receive the usual hanging basket liner and other green stuffs. Really this is my first go at proper scenery, so its all a bit trial and error and use what you know, so hopefully it turns out ok!

The yard track is continuing to be painted and as this is a bit more of a grubby area received a light wash of the earthy colour, before ballasting.

 

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Fiddle yard is complete, so naturally I had to fill it up with some trains! It can take a rake of 5, and the idea is locos will push back the stock, before being stabled in the loco area.

 

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Finally, the last bits were added to complete the other lighting gantry which lights this side of the layout. Because of the fiddle yard traverser needing to swing out a convential attachment of one of the gantry's to the layout was not possible, and so had to be attached to the back of the embankment framing, hence the need for that to be so heavy duty! Anyway, another L bracket was bolted on, and the gantry fitted to that. It's pretty sturdy!

 

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Need to touch the paint up on those before the show!

 

The bridge bits have arrived from America too, should have that installed within the week :)

 

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Throw a bit of green at it and it's done then!

 

Cheers

Dave

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The layouts coming along great Rich!

 

Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh at Brock!

 

Andy.

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