MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) A recent holiday in Majorca reunited me with the Soller Train and Tram allowing me to have rides on both. Unfortunately this was part of an organised tour so I had little opportunity to photograph the Train to my disappointment. I did however manage to get these: I do have a soft spot for these vehicles, possibly as a result of them being in varnished teak and thoughts turned to possible ways of modelling them reasonably cheaply. With the prototype being 3' gauge a scale of 3mm/foot would result in a track gauge of 9mm implying that I might be able to use N Gauge chassis. The models are still small enough to take up minimal space so hopefully will not take over the house. Since returning home I have obtained a copy of "Rails Through Majorca" by Giles Barnabe and have been studying the text and drawings provided. A quick scan and scale of his drawings suggested that I should be able to get away with a Tomytec chassis for the motor coaches and one has been ordered from Japan. On studying the supplied drawings I have noticed a few "oddities" which I will need to resolve, for example on scaling the motor coach and trailer the buffer heights do not match up! With so few of my own photographs available I have scoured the Internet for 3rd party images and downloaded copies of them for reference. These are being compared with the drawings in the hope that I can create some new, more accurate drawings to work from. I had originally thought that I might produce the various vehicles on the Silhouette cutter but with the recent reduction in price of FUD prints from Shapeways may indeed produce 3D prints instead so others can benefit. There is one area I could really do with some help on. I cannot find a good side view of the motor coaches coupled to a trailer with both in view to help resolve the buffer issue. All images found are an oblique view. If anyone can help please let me know? Edited May 27, 2017 by MikeTrice 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 Wish you well with this. Both the railway and tramway are lovely. Should make for great modelling. I will have a look through my photos but I doubt if I have any which would help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Have made a start plotting out one of the later coaches in Inkscape: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Wish you well with this. Both the railway and tramway are lovely. Should make for great modelling. I will have a look through my photos but I doubt if I have any which would help. Thanks. I am hoping that lots of people will have photographed them on various holidays so somewhere such a view must exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Some starting research points perhaps here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105469-modelling-the-tram-from-soller-on-mallorca/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 I've checked out my photos but don't have any of the coupling between the motor coach and trailers. If you are doing a layout I have a few infrastructure pictures such as point levers and the level crossing and station at Bunyola. I've also got one of a tamper parked there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Tried StreetView and could not find any image with the train in it. I already have plenty of photos of the trams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 I've checked out my photos but don't have any of the coupling between the motor coach and trailers. If you are doing a layout I have a few infrastructure pictures such as point levers and the level crossing and station at Bunyola. I've also got one of a tamper parked there. Thanks. If I do anything it will be a very small micro. There are photos of the coupling around but not from a distance showing the bodies as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Are this any use? Taken in 2011. AM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Is this helpful? AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 Front end view at Bunyola here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/121161-and-the-next-photo-will-havereal-railway-version/page-23&do=findComment&comment=2708726 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 Two of the power cars No.3 at Bunyola No.4 at the mountain viewpoint A few of other items to be going on with: Bunyola Yard from the station Bunyola Turntable used to access goods shed and siding Track Machines in the depot Tamper parked opposite the depot 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2017 There's a Dane, Erik Pedersen, who runs an excellent website, full of information and photos, on a monthly basis. It's mainly about Danish Railways, and it's in Danish, but he is a great tramway enthusiast. If you plod through the thread, you find some good information on the Soller tram. Here's a link to get you started, spread out from there:http://evp.dk/index.php?page=mallorca-s-sporvej-soller-port-de-soller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 There's a Dane, Erik Pedersen, who runs an excellent website, full of information and photos, on a monthly basis. It's mainly about Danish Railways, and it's in Danish, but he is a great tramway enthusiast. If you plod through the thread, you find some good information on the Soller tram. Here's a link to get you started, spread out from there:http://evp.dk/index.php?page=mallorca-s-sporvej-soller-port-de-soller About 3/4 of the way down the page at Roca Roja, our daughter booked us a family holiday a couple of years ago in the house just visible to the left of the tram directly by the loop ponits. Didn't take any numbers but I recon within the week I must have classed them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 The picture you need is on this page, scroll down to 27 October 2016 for a picture of coupling up. There is a mis-match in the buffer heights. http://evp.dk/index.php?page=mallorca-s-sporvej-og-jernbaner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 This odd P-way vehicle in the shed at Soller in 2011. Don't know if it is still there. Think it might be an overhead line maintenance vehicle. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Some interesting images there. Regarding the type of image I am looking for can be seen from this mockup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2017 This will take you to the picture of coupling up I mentioned earlier. http://www.mjk-h0.dk/evp_Df/14068-DSC01692.AAB%204.Soller.27.10.2016.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Thank you. Yes I had found it. Edited May 27, 2017 by MikeTrice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) I will follow this thread with interest. Mrs Brightspark and I have a trip out to take the train from Bunyola to Soller every couple of years. Then a tram down to the Port. Its a shame that they don't run more trains in the afternoon as it always a rush to get back to Soller Station. One day I would like to take the train from Palma so as to expirence the street running. By the way I understand that Soller is pronounced Soy-yah. Our annual trip is for my cycling training camp (and her tanning camp). The level crossing at Bunyola is always a welcome relief as it is on the circuit running from Porto Pollenca over the "Big Pig" (Puig) into Soller and then up the Col'd'Soller. (there used to be a large bull shaped billboard here at the top back in the 1970's) You get a glimpses of the line and if your lucky the train as you climb up. It must be just after where the line comes out of the tunnel. Then the oh so quick descent and then a horrible stretch of road before you turn left and pass over the tracks (go easy as they are quite bumpy) then that is the last hill of the day. (unless you are mad enough to do the Orient or back up to Lluc or even both, I know people who have done it). The cafe in Bunyola square is always a very welcome sight. Then two hours flat riding back to base. Of course going the other way the level crossing signals that you have at least a couple of hours hard climbing. Anyway here are some pictures taken in April 2014 The train is at Bunyola. The rather shaky picture was taken inside the long tunnel from the end platform into the Train. And the last two at Soller works. Enjoy Andy (Edit to add picture notes) Edited May 27, 2017 by brightspark 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 By the way I understand that Soller is pronounced Soy-yah. I heard this during our recent visit. I suppose it makes sense when you think how the Mallorca spelling is pronounced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 An attempt to establish relative heights of the two main vehicles using a downloaded image in Inkscape: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 tis looks interesting.It would not be that difficult to produce the models for 3D printing. Don't ignore WSF , as there is not that much visible small detall, and it is much easier and cheaper to paint. What would be recommended for the pantographs. I ask , as I need something similar for one of my French projects. For more information on the Majorca system, I would suggest actualy asking Giles Barnabe. He is a regular contributer on the MTI forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 Getting there, albeit slowly: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) I think I have solved the various sizing issues however today I have ordered a copy of "El ferrocarril a Mallorca : la via des progrés" so will probably put this project to one side until it arrives. Edited May 29, 2017 by MikeTrice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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