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Nice stuff!

 

Sorry to be picky but easy to remedy next time you have the paint out, I think the solebars and buffers were black in BR days rather than body colour?

 

Solebars definitely black, strapping body colour, even below waist height but Im not sure about buffer beams which may have varied anyway?

Often hard to tell the underlying colour particularly on bauxite wagons as everything tended towards that typical dull brown anyway.

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36 minutes ago, Hal Nail said:

Nice stuff!

 

Sorry to be picky but easy to remedy next time you have the paintiut, I think the solebars and buffers were black in BR days rather than body colour?

 

Solebars definitely black, strapping body colour, even below waist height but Im not sure about buffer beams which may have varied anyway?

Often hard to tell the underlying colour particularly on bauxite wagons as everything tended towards that typical dull brown anyway.


Nothing wrong with constructive criticism. I’ve not finished the painting yet. I wanted to get the lettering done to see how it looked. Just adding any final detail, then I’ll finish painting. The solebar will be a darker grey. I will use a colour picture of an unfitted wagon as the example. 
 

I am reliant on feedback from others (I’ve got thick skin so don’t hold back.)

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2 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

Nice stuff!

 

Sorry to be picky but easy to remedy next time you have the paintiut, I think the solebars and buffers were black in BR days rather than body colour?

 

Solebars definitely black, strapping body colour, even below waist height but Im not sure about buffer beams which may have varied anyway?

Often hard to tell the underlying colour particularly on bauxite wagons as everything tended towards that typical dull brown anyway.

 

Here is my 'example' a clip from the very excellent 'Southern Wagons in Colour' by Jim King.  A really useful book.

 

The body is light grey and the lower parts were black, solebar and buffer beams.  On this wagon the end irons were also painted black at the bottom.  Other wagons have these in grey, i think that would have been depot or painter specific and also whether a brush or spray were used.

 

I have seen wagons spruced up by masking out the lettering and then applying a single coat over the rest with a roller....

 

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31 minutes ago, The Bigbee Line said:

 

 

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Interesting on that one looks like the strapping was painted black at the bottom rather than the body colour extending all the way down. Another thing that varies a lot so I tend to do whichever is easiest to paint on any given wagon!

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Looking through my paint stash I noted a tin of Humbrol Matt 67 Tank Grey. When opened there was lots of the thin liquid with the colour a slightly plasticy layer at the bottom. Not sure what’s going on there, but gave it a good stir. Didn’t really mix in. Just created a dark wash. So in the spirit of waste not want not, I’ve used it as a wash. 


 

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Here is an example of theatre in modelling. 
 

I have used some excellent buffers from Accurascale. The base plate in home made and flat. 
 

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The theatre part is the addition of a couple of bits of coffee cup lid to represent the bolts and fillets. Not 100% accurate, but your eye registers them, telling the brain that interprets them as the parts on the real buffer.... good enough....

 

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Here is an example of exterior condition in service, a buffer from DB 972186 (2003 Toton)  It is a Rudd wagon so these buffers have come from its donor under frame.  Notice how everything has various layers of grime, plus all over there are specs of road dirt thrown up when running in a train. (no wagons were hurt taking this picture)...

 

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Pretty well there now.....

 

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The W was from a GWR. With numbers from an LNER sheet....

 

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The “MATCH” is from a GW sheet....

 

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Finally a WR style tare weight. 
 

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On 31/08/2017 at 15:24, The Bigbee Line said:

Tank Wagon via the Trainferry

 

I've been looking to add some early Ferry Wagons from the late 50's / early 60's and regularly do a search on ebay.  Came across this tank wagon the other day.  Looks to be a tank wagon suitable for the period,  Running from the continent via Dover and Headcorn for a Chemical Plant in Tenterden.  In reality the Exmover used by BR was made in the Tenterden area.....

 

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A nice model.  Sprung axleboxes and all brake work.  Maybe just add a vacuum through pipe.  It only has a handbrake on the veranda.  Must check some contemporary tanks to see if a lever of wheeled handbrake would be appropriate.  I know that some wagons operated to the UK with veranda handbrakes only.  The lettering can have a black patch over the existing (to allow easy removal if required) just need to sort out some suitable lettering.  Then need to check when the towing and tie down eyes were added..

 

This tank is back in the shops and getting the handrails and other gubbins reduced to fit in the UK gauge....

 

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The steps to the shunters veranda stick out,...

 

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Now cut off...

 

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Here are some of my inspriational images from Dover...1103744225_tank2383739790002171.jpg.9c0511a0685dd84b02e8566bcc16816f.jpg

 

238573985021 I think was for Duxford?

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A recent eBay purchase was a brand new, never raced or rallied, Three Aitch 12 ton Mineral. 
 

I have a soft spot for these kits. 
 

Recent online spotting showed one with a load of new planks. So I thought I’d have a go. 
 

I’ve set the solebars at prototype spacing. This pushed them out slightly from the kit dimensions 

 

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One side is stuck on. The other is removable. 
 

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The locating tab is setting up. I will use the RCH drawings for detailing. 

 

 

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Tonight I decided to scribe some planks on the inside of the body. 
 

An adjustable square was set up to the plank width. 
 

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Turn over and scribe. 
 

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I’ve only done the top three as the wagon will be loaded. 

 

Here are the sides ready to glue. 

 

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Finally the underframe needs bearings added. 
 

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I use the Revell cement for most things. It stays wet to allow a little working. No good for ABS but OK for most. It is particularly good with the plastic of the Three Aitch kits, softens it quickly, then makes a solid bond. 
 

Here I’m on the third corner. The priority being to get a body with no twist and to be nice and square. In about half an hour I’ll do the last corner. 
 

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The construction continues. I have to face the fact that this wagon will always be a ‘sows ear’. But I can give it a polish...

 

So the buffers were replaced with some Parkside RCH style. 
 

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The three haitch buffers are overscale. 
 

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Finally a Peco drawhook has been bonded into the headstock. 
 

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Work, garden and the layout have eaten my time. I had a fiddle with some door bangers, made from Parkside coupling shanks.  
 

Fitted through a hole and secured with thin black styrene courtesy of my stash of cup lids. 

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I was working on Hayling Island tonight. The latest wagon had a push along session with a friend. Quite rewarding....

 

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Made some slow progress. 
 

I’ve cut V hangers to the RCH pattern from styrene sheet. 
 

Marking the hole....
 

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Cutting out. ...

 

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Outer V hangers lined up....

 

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3H brake lever re-shaped...

 

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Here is the second lever. Bent and clamped to set after some solvent was flowed into the slight cracks at the bend points. 

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The brake push rods are flat. Ok for brakes with a cross shaft. But double brakes have angled push rods. 
 

Here with the original V hanger and safety loops removed. 

 

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Here cemented in place. 
 

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