RMweb Gold Nick C Posted June 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 hours ago, Johndc120 said: We are considering a set of metal steps down between the buffers for access. Isn't that more of a modern thing? The more traditional method, I thought, was a foothold set into the front of the platform face. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Nick C said: Isn't that more of a modern thing? The more traditional method, I thought, was a foothold set into the front of the platform face. Now you’ve said it I tend to agree, maybe just some brick steps low down to assist getting up rather than a full set of steps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 A touch of progress this week on the goods shed, this has been held up with lack of CAD time for finishing the goods shed crane. Finally we can say that it’s 99% there with the design and we’ve got a test print off. (a few alterations needed to the way it’s printed) the prototype is a GWR freestanding light goods shed crane, capable of only lifting 1T it was very limited it what it could do but anything over this would use the yard crane. now we have the crane we can now check the size of the platform so the crane when swung out ends over the centre of the tracks. Oops it was 10mm too big so it’s had to be trimmed down! 11 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 That is very interesting, @Limpley Stokerhas been discussing just such a crane with me over on my Aston on Clun thread. On my layout I need to provide a six ton yard beastie for loading logs perhaps. I had worked out how to build a scotch derrick for the timber, as the Mike's Models one is no longer available. But I don't really have the room! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just caught up with this thread. Brilliant modelling 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 Progress on the engine shed and crane today firstly on the shed, we’ve added the edging strips and brick walling to the platform, the verdict on the platform top is still out at the moment, I am possibly thinking of a brick platform top. Also more progress on the crane, I had to modify how it was printed to get some of the detail to come out fully and it worked much better this time. We’ve added the bracing wire to it and that has made a huge difference. It’s nice to compare it to the prototype which is the one at princetown, it’s not perfect but hopefully a good representation. swung out over the track it sits nicely over the centre of the track It fits through the doorway nicely with plenty of room for the load swung over the road access it sits nicely over the centre of that and then as per the photo it can be stowed out of the way fitting snuggly into the corner as a comparison the 1T of the shed and the 6T yard crane, the plan is to have both of these linked to servos so if the point is set for the other siding for any length of time the cranes will swing out over the track 8 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Looks like some good progress here, and the shed crane is well thought out operationally, a well as it's looks. However, can you say a bit more about the 6 ton crane. They were so widely used in GW goods yards, and I need one for my layout, based on Helston. Or maybe I should nip down the road and search out an original, from Elmore. All the best TONY 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mulgabill said: However, can you say a bit more about the 6 ton crane. They were so widely used in GW goods yards, and I need one for my layout, based on Helston. Thanks Tony, Here’s some pictures of the 6T yard crane, it is the same as the Helston one. Same as the 1T it’s one of our 3D printed items with then a few extra details added in nickel silver. It’s rarely seen in model form so it was something we definitely wanted and as you say they were pretty common place.this is the second version as I originally designed it from photos and a bit of guess work for the drive mechanism. After sharing some photos of the original one of the Pendon lot kindly shared some drawings and detailed shots of the workings I have sold a few and this was one to a friend Barry Sargent who has done a nice job of painting it 9 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Johndc120 said: Thanks Tony, Here’s some pictures of the 6T yard crane, it is the same as the Helston one. Same as the 1T it’s one of our 3D printed items with then a few extra details added in nickel silver. It’s rarely seen in model form so it was something we definitely wanted and as you say they were pretty common place.this is the second version as I originally designed it from photos and a bit of guess work for the drive mechanism. After sharing some photos of the original one of the Pendon lot kindly shared some drawings and detailed shots of the workings I have sold a few and this was one to a friend Barry Sargent who has done a nice job of painting it That really is impressive, especially when painted. I did see an Osbornes 4mm one at a Bristol show 3 or 4 yrs ago, but they didn't have an OO one with them! (Nor did they reply to couple of subsequent e-mails). Not a patch on yours though. Should you be thinking of selling any more, please may I join the queue? Cheers, and thanks TONY Edited June 29, 2021 by Mulgabill too many 3s 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mulgabill said: Should you be thinking of selling any more, please may I join the queue? I’ll message you now john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Some of the smallest bits take the longest! This has certainly been the case with the brick platform surface. It’s taken quite some time to get it to fit into all the corners! So this has been all the progress this week 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 Moving back over to the station area, We have started to install the cattle dock. We are using the ratio dancing to make our pens which are unique in shape to our layout. Instead of the plastic rod we are using 0.45 nickel silver wire the floor of the cattle docks was very rarely flat, especially on bricked surfaces the animals could have problems standing up if they laid down. To help them get grip often there were patterns of raised bricks, we have started this pattern off in the corner of the first pen. It’s definitely going to take a while to do them all 9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 After a few busy weeks working on a garden railway for my boy (still WIP) I’ve finally had time to do some more on Elmore. In particular the cattle dock which is now nearly fully assembled apart from the 5 posts on the front to back runs where the wire needs to be sprung into place, also lots more wire to be fitted which I have just ordered the tedious job of adding the raised brick detail also continues, the first pen is now all fitted and I’ve just done the first few in the second. At some point soon I’ll also have to think about lamp positions too. 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted July 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Johndc120 said: working on a garden railway for my boy That’s what they all say. ;-) Paul. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, 5BarVT said: That’s what they all say. ;-) Paul. It’s the way to get it past management! Little does she know as well as some playmobil stuff for him I also have a few kits stashed!!! 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 Last week I managed to thread all of the 0.45mm wire for the fencing of the cattle dock. Fitting nickel silver wire instead of the plastic recommended in the kit really improves the strength and it should survive a knock or 2 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 20:41, Mulgabill said: Should you be thinking of selling any more, please may I join the queue? Cheers, and thanks TONY I'd also be interested in one if possible, could you drop me a line please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted August 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 20:01, Johndc120 said: I’ll message you now john John, I too would like one of those for my Helston model if they are available. regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johndc120 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 Finally we have started the lengthy process of track painting, this is all done with Vallejo acrylics. one lesson learnt from Shwt, when you weather the ballast it tones down all of the weathering on the sleepers so we have gone heavier than you might expect with the rust but it won’t end up like that. the first task is to prime everything The whole thing is then painted in German camouflage black brown we then use a mix of ‘dark fleshtone’ and ‘filthy brown’ to then give us the rust colours which we use for the side of the rails and the rust wash onto the sleepers once the rust was applied we have then started to pick out some of the concrete parts, these include the GWR concrete pot sleeper the other tedious part is picking out all of the concrete stools and legs of the point rodding and mechanical signalling equipment 11 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 This is the section across the bridge, it’s a good example of how heavily we have rusted the track. Once the ballast is in and we weather it, the rust will be toned down a lot 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted November 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Johndc120 said: This is the section across the bridge, it’s a good example of how heavily we have rusted the track. Once the ballast is in and we weather it, the rust will be toned down a lot John, this is really very impressive. Am I correct in thinking this is all done with airbrushes? Also can you say what brand of primer you use and if you airbrush on the priner as well? thanks Andy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Andy Keane said: John, this is really very impressive. Am I correct in thinking this is all done with airbrushes? Also can you say what brand of primer you use and if you airbrush on the priner as well? thanks Andy Thank you Andy, yes it is all airbrushed, I’ll give a full break down of the paints used. for the primer and the main base coat I used a spar max GP-35 trigger action brush, it’s much more comfortable for spraying large areas and is capable of delivering large quantities of paint over quite a wide spray all of the detail work was then done with an Iwatta Eclipse HP-CS which although it has the same nozzle size (0.35mm) it has a narrow cone of spray the primer used was Vallejo grey surface primer 74.615, this was only used for a half coat to provide a key, if you do a full coat you will end up using a lot of dark brown to fully cover the light grey the track brown which will be the same which I’ll use for ballast weathering, this is Vallejo German camouflage black brown 70.822 We use 2 colours for rust, Vallejo game colour dark fleshtone 72.044 and Vallejo game colour filthy brown 72.037. For the rail and chair rust it’s 3 parts dark 1 part filthy and for the rust wash which then goes on the sleepers next to the chairs it’s 3 parts filthy to 1 part dark. This light rust is also very good for new rail. I hope that helps a bit 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 An excuse for a Hall!! modelling a country branch terminus usually prohibits the use of 4-6-0 tender engines, which is a shame because I do have a fondness for a Hall. luckily I’ve found an excuse, this being our ballast train, as can be seen in the picture below. on this service a standard hall can be seen propelling some catfish wagons as they drop a section of fresh ballast. Gloucester had several halls allocated during august 1955 but one of particular interest is modified hall 6985 ‘Parwick Hall’ seen below is our period looking very grotty!! Completed in feb of 1948 she was one a few to have received the experimental livery of lined GWR colours with ‘British railways’ hand painted in GWR lettering as per her sister below! the only slight change to this being the addition of the smoke box number plate added during service so now I have an excuse, time to go and buy one!!! this is a Bachmann modified hall which has been stripped and repainted The next jobs are to add the lining and plates before I can put all of the detailing back on and start wearying it down, I don’t want to have it quite as grotty as it was on the prototype, but still want it to look in loved 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted November 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Johndc120 said: An excuse for a Hall!! modelling a country branch terminus usually prohibits the use of 4-6-0 tender engines, which is a shame because I do have a fondness for a Hall. luckily I’ve found an excuse, this being our ballast train, as can be seen in the picture below. on this service a standard hall can be seen propelling some catfish wagons as they drop a section of fresh ballast. Gloucester had several halls allocated during august 1955 but one of particular interest is modified hall 6985 ‘Parwick Hall’ seen below is our period looking very grotty!! Completed in feb of 1948 she was one a few to have received the experimental livery of lined GWR colours with ‘British railways’ hand painted in GWR lettering as per her sister below! the only slight change to this being the addition of the smoke box number plate added during service so now I have an excuse, time to go and buy one!!! this is a Bachmann modified hall which has been stripped and repainted The next jobs are to add the lining and plates before I can put all of the detailing back on and start wearying it down, I don’t want to have it quite as grotty as it was on the prototype, but still want it to look in loved Love the work on the Hall. In my case the only tender loco light enough for Helston is the Earl (Helston was a yellow route) so I too have aquired a Bachmann model, though I am not sure if I am brave enough to take the airbrush to it yet! My excuse will be to use it to run summer specials. Also thanks for the details of the paints - I can see why you wanted a heavy duty airbrush to do all that work - it has set me thinking, what with Christmas approaching and fifty feet of track to paint and ballast! regards Andy ps - does your point rodding actually work? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Andy Keane said: Love the work on the Hall. In my case the only tender loco light enough for Helston is the Earl (Helston was a yellow route) so I too have aquired a Bachmann model, though I am not sure if I am brave enough to take the airbrush to it yet! My excuse will be to use it to run summer specials. Also thanks for the details of the paints - I can see why you wanted a heavy duty airbrush to do all that work - it has set me thinking, what with Christmas approaching and fifty feet of track to paint and ballast! regards Andy ps - does your point rodding actually work? But airbrushes are brilliant but useful for very different purposes, I also have an Iwatta high line HP-PS which has a 0.2mm nozzle which is then great for really fine work but I hardly use it. no it’s just for show, I’ve tried to get it spot on to scale and at that size it wouldn’t stand up to being used john 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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