RailWest Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 ..or red perhaps ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, RailWest said: ..or red perhaps ? I looked at a lot of black & white photos of red finials before coming to the conclusion that the finial on the banner post was black but it is, of course, impossible to be absolutely certain. I would, though, have expected it to be painted to either match the post (white) or match the banner arm (black). There are other black items on the post so the painter would already have a brush "loaded" with black paint (and, of course, white), he would have to get out a brush specially for red paint - railwaymen generally were very good at finding the easy way to do a job, within the rules of course. Edited January 23, 2020 by bécasse 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 You may well be right. On the other hand, given that probably there were very few occasions when the painter would have had a finial that was other than red, he might just have assumed this to be red as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 To be honest I have never seen a WR finial painted v black other than the band around the base, the 'ball' has always been in the relevant signal colour. However I must admit to never seeing a goodly percentage of the semaphore signals on the WR 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: the 'ball' has always been in the relevant signal colour. Yes, that makes sense - and by that logic you could say that a banner, being essentially a "black armed signal", would have a black 'ball'. That feels right - but what feels right and what the Western actually did are two different things. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 AIUI the principle of the colouring, other than perhaps for aesthetics, was that - if perchance the arm fell off - the colour of the ball would tell the driver what sort of arm the signal had - ie distant or stop - and therefore what action he was required to take on the basis of assuming that the arm was in the 'on' position. Rather irrelevant for a repeater, hence I would have thought a 'neutral' black or white would have been appropriate. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted January 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2020 Many thanks to all for their input, particularly info and photo of High Wycombe. Looks like the prosecution lawyer (post 1) wasn’t very good!!! I’ve also learned something about RMweb settings: as I started the topic but hadn’t replied to it, it didn’t appear in my ‘followed’ listing. Hence a rather belated response from me. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Try looking at 'content I posted in', that's how I keep tabs on such things. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 22/01/2020 at 20:07, Tim V said: Here's one at Dorrington. Is that mechanical or electric , if mechanical was there a balance weight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Junctionmad said: Is that mechanical or electric , if mechanical was there a balance weight It's electric. I can't off hand think of any mechanical ones on the Western and it would be interesting to see a photo if such things did exist anywhere (forget the odd things done by 'preservationists'). Banjo signals were generally mechanical so it's not beyond teh realms of possibility of there being a mechanical banner signal but it would have been a very interesting job ensuring that it worked correctly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I would have considered this to be electro-mechanical, being that AIUI there is a physical arm worked by a mechanical linkage to an electrical drive mechanism. But maybe I'm being too 'picky'....??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 What’s the vertical “ rod” running down out of shot behind the banner box ? Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Electrical cable. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim V said: Electrical cable. Thanks Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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