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I’ll add Brian Daniels’ albums of detail shots for nearly every mainline loco class has been very, very useful in many situations. Adam Lucas on Flickr also has got nice libraries.

 

https://flickr.com/photos/63609267@N05/sets/72157648321204748


Unless there already is such a resource on here - would a thread linking to detail picture libraries for each loco class be helpful? Currently it seems to be pure luck to strike a goldmine of photographs that answer every single question I have!

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As far as i know (happy to be proved wrong) there where two slight differences in class 20 bogies. Some have holes on the lower metal beam conecting the two axel boxes (sorry i do nto know the technical term) and some do not have the holes.

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2 hours ago, e30ftw said:

As far as i know (happy to be proved wrong) there where two slight differences in class 20 bogies. Some have holes on the lower metal beam conecting the two axel boxes (sorry i do nto know the technical term) and some do not have the holes.

Very clear in the photos I linked to.

 

Looks very complicated. At least in later years they appear to be random. Of the DRS locos 20304 & 20305 holes under cab, plain under hood; 20308 both holes; 20309 & 20312 both plain. I haven't looked further!

 

Paul

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7 hours ago, e30ftw said:

As far as i know (happy to be proved wrong) there where two slight differences in class 20 bogies. Some have holes on the lower metal beam conecting the two axel boxes (sorry i do nto know the technical term) and some do not have the holes.

 

There are at least three variations - the first ones built had plain/flat, then there was fluted, and then fluted with holes, I think each one getting progressively lighter to help reduce unsprung weight. The technical term I believe is equalizing beam.

 

An example of the early flat type:

 

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Of course during overhauls they could be swapped around and mixed up.

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I'm not convinced there are only 3!

 

This appears to be as the official but has a little fluting on the lower edge https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e23a6eafd 

This has the fluting on the top not the bottom https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e3b976e35 as does https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e276d9a5c  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e40c77808

 

As happens too often we haven't been given a clue as to the period the OP was interested in. These have had 60 years of life so lots of opportunities for developments as well as the obvious rebuilds. Lovely locos, I remember them at Euston on ECS etc. duties and much more recently heard three of them take a heavy rail train out of York South yard under Holgate bridge - amazing sound!

 

Paul

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1 hour ago, hmrspaul said:

I'm not convinced there are only 3!

I think it can be said that there are three basic variations - plain, fluted and fluted with holes, but there are several variations on the fluting and, I suspect, how they were made. There are some which look to have had the fluting milled into them, in the same was was done for steam locomotive rods. There are fluted ones where only the central part is done, others where the fluting continues right to the ends, through the tapered section. I am not certain that there aren't some that are forged, and others that are fabricated. With two different works involved in building them, and several production batches there was considerable room for variation, if for no other reason than to fit the works' manufacturing capacity at the time. Then add to that the 20 bogies that were built for the D5900 Type 2s, which appear to have been identical for all intents and purposes and which may have been subsumed into the Class 20 stores stock when the D5900s were scrapped.

 

Jim

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There is a useful article in Modelling Railways Illustrated for Volume 3 No.5 (January 1996), which includes several good photos of bogies and chassis details. By Rolf Farrell.

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