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17 minutes ago, cbrooks122000 said:

Anything involving a price rise generally gets people upset.

 

Teddy tossing will just get the topic locked. Not in the mood for it. 

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12 minutes ago, cbrooks122000 said:

I think if I remember one of the advantages of preordering off Hornby was that they honored the original price. I don't know if they will stick to that, but if they do then the preorder price off Hornby will be the same as the discounted price off a Retailer.

TBF, if you order through Hornby, they do tend to honour the "Pre-Order" price from personal experience. They did however change their terms and conditions a few years back to allow price hikes prior to items coming into stock.

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1 minute ago, andyman7 said:

Hmmm, well if enough people cancel their pre-orders that should solve the other problem. The supply chain is tight and I suspect if you really want something and can afford it (granted not everyone is in that position) you'd be better off buying it than holding out and getting upset when ebay scalpers add another 10% (or 20%)

At the moment EBay purchases are a bit distorted, too many people bored and studying EBay. I study it a lot and usually the "scalpers" stuff doesn't always sell. I build classic bikes and it is a bit like the stuff at Autojumbles where some Dealer ask stupid prices. Generally a year later it is still on their stall just a bit more rusty. Generally if you are patient the stuff will eventually turn up at the right price. The other day I got "outbid" on a Britannia chassis (I was converting an old loco), what was bid was stupidly high, the following day I bought a whole Britannia with the right chassis for the amount I initially bid. 

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Ain't just model trains, I see serious price rises everywhere, most worrying. Trains we can do without, food, energy etc we can't.

 

I read about looming big problems looming with OPEC re oil & gas prices, that really will cause problems.

 

Problems in the plastics production also, which will affect Hornby etc.

 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Plastics-Sector-Is-Suffering-As-Oil-Prices-Rise.html

 

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3 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

Teddy tossing will just get the topic locked. Not in the mood for it. 

Sorry what are you on about, is it the same as having a hissy fit? So far nobody nobody has complained that bad.  

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5 hours ago, Trains4U said:

In summary, XXXXX state that there have been massive availability problems with shipping capacity and raw materials which have resulted in a significant inflation of costs.   Whilst XXXXX have absorbed these for the last 6 months, it is no longer sustainable and clearly not a short term issue.

 

 

I have replaced the manufacturers name in Gareth's post as what he has written there could well apply to all of the major model railway suppliers. Almost everything comes from China and so all of the other manufacturers will have been faced with the same increases in shipping costs and raw material prices. How long will it be before the others have to increase their prices - remember they are running the business to make a profit, not to keep their customers happy.

 

 

38 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

I just don't see how me (assuming I am average and so others will do the same) cancelling £500 or more of stuff they are probably committed to making is going to do them a lot of favours.

 

You are very lucky to be able to afford £500 of pre-orders. In over 40 years of railway modelling, that probably represents about 5 years spending for me and almost all of that has been second hand items.

 

 

16 minutes ago, cbrooks122000 said:

Fortunately for Hornby there is little competition,

 

Really ?  Then who are the other companies producing OO model railways - for a start I'm sure Bachmann consider that they are in competition with Hornby - and what about others such as Accurascale, Rapido, KR Models etc etc (and apologies if I missed out your favourite manufacturer) - don't they all take a part of the market share and can be classed as competitors?

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