Courtybella Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Dapol have announced a rerun of the BR standard brake van for 2022 this time with the addition of roller bearing type. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 That’ll be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Now official! Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Hattons have more details 7F-200-009 - BR grey - B951841 7F-200-010 - BR bauxite - B951260 7F-200-011 - BR bauxite - B953501 7F-200-012 - BR bauxite and yellow - B954768 7F-200-013 - CAR - Railfreight grey w/ coal sector markings - B954781 7F-200-014 - ZTO - Civil Engineers 'Dutch' grey & yellow - DB951767 7F-200-015 - CAR - Railfreight red & grey - B954561 Prototype photos of a number of the vans can be seen on my site. at the moment the easiest place to see them is a few photos into https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/recentlyadded But searching by number is also possible. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 They have arrived. Thanks to @Nick G for pointing out that the real B953501 had grey ends on the verandah which is something Dapol haven't captured and is also something I had not seen before but having looked through @hmrspaul gallery this livery wasn't unique. I did think about renumbering mine but have plumped for painting the end grey instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) Nice models but not a huge step forward from the initial batch. I think all the new ones have issues with livery and details so you need to do a bit of modelling to get them correct. Here is one I did earlier! Edited June 12, 2022 by Nick G 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) Quite nice models, interesting putting them next to a slaters kit built one, the dimensions are pretty much identical. The biggest problem I can see with these - which you can't unsee once you have! - is that the side handrails should be one continuous piece not three separate ones as they have modelled. They are going to be a pain to correct, I've left mine at the moment as I dislike doing handrails! Edit to add, be careful with the corner sidelamp brackets they are very fragile, I've already broken one off Edited June 12, 2022 by 101 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 The most noticeable 'fault' is the totally unrealistic rainstrips. A few old LNER vans had these but my photos show they used simple straight angled strips, and BR continued to do so - although the direction of the angle varied. At least the triple handrails are correct for some versions - the shadow on this shows this well https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan500/e205a2732 Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, hmrspaul said: The most noticeable 'fault' is the totally unrealistic rainstrips. A few old LNER vans had these but my photos show they used simple straight angled strips, and BR continued to do so - although the direction of the angle varied. At least the triple handrails are correct for some versions - the shadow on this shows this well https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan500/e205a2732 Paul Yes I agree Paul that some had the triple handrails but they were the early diagram built ones, and as far as I'm aware none of those were air piped? And are not in the number range Dapol have painted on the models. You are right too about the 'eyebrow' rainstrips, I never saw any like that either, rainstrips were just simple wooden battens, and especially if the van roof had ever been refelted/canvassed the wagon repairers would just nail on new battens on at whatever angle they fancied! (This is also applies to any wooden roofed vans) I currently have a couple on the bench - with a slaters built one behind - These are still very much work in progress but shows how i have altered the strips on mine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 22 hours ago, 101 said: interesting putting them next to a slaters kit built one I still prefer Slaters stuff slightly for appearance - the planking groves are more subtle particularly on the box vans. Given their age now they really were terrific kits. Where Dapol really score well though is their running qualities. Even with home made compensation units my kit built stuff isnt anywhere near as good as Dapols. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, hmrspaul said: At least the triple handrails are correct for some versions - the shadow on this shows this well https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan500/e205a2732 4 hours ago, 101 said: some had the triple handrails but they were the early diagram built ones, and as far as I'm aware none of those were air piped? I think dia 1/500 was the LNER batch that was built by BR and all had short running boards? I think personally i'll do the roof but live with this as a faff to sort.7 Edit: There are some later 1/504 with full running boards and triple handrails on Paul's site. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan504/e2259c05 and at least 1 roller bearing van 1/507 with them: https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e38c97c5f prototype for everything! Edited June 13, 2022 by Hal Nail new info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Hal Nail said: but live with this as a faff to sort. Unfortunately I will probably agree to do the same, as although it really bugs me, I hate doing handrails and it took me absolutely ages and many tries to do them on that slaters kit above 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Another Dapol brake van weathered and decals applied... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 12:53, hmrspaul said: The most noticeable 'fault' is the totally unrealistic rainstrips. A few old LNER vans had these but my photos show they used simple straight angled strips, and BR continued to do so - although the direction of the angle varied. Not the easiest thing to see so just to confirm, was the standard as built arrangement to have straight strips, starting closer together at the ends and sloping down toward the edge of the roof at they got towards the main van body? I've shaved off the Dapol ones but struggling to find a really clear 1950s photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hal Nail said: Not the easiest thing to see so just to confirm, was the standard as built arrangement to have straight strips, starting closer together at the ends and sloping down toward the edge of the roof at they got towards the main van body? I've shaved off the Dapol ones but struggling to find a really clear 1950s photo. No idea. What you describe is common but there are some with a continuous strip, curved for the entire van. I wasn't there, it's 75 years ago. There are two in this picture with similar, but neither would be what I consider to be common. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan506/e2432cdeb Every batch of these vans has differences as it developed, and I don't believe we even know which were unfit, piped or vacuum braked when new. Paul Edited October 15, 2022 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) Found a photo after trawling through pretty much every book, taken at Torrington in 1964 - so could still easily be a repair by then - and it was something like this. Im going to leave off the longer strip tho as just looks clunky. Edited October 16, 2022 by Hal Nail 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Found a photo after trawling through pretty much every book, taken at Torrington in 1964 - so could still easily be a repair by then - and it was something like this. Im going to leave off the longer strip tho as just looks clunky. Ignoring the central strip I think what you have done is the commonest arrangement in later years. But when it was introduced I have no idea. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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