Continental HO

[squeaky]

I haven't posted for a while, been busy

 

Well I haven't made loads of progress but I have been busy buying stuff

 

So far the Italian fleet consists of 3 locos

• Oskar D445 original green (ZIMO DCC sound)
  
• Rivarossi D753 Rail Traction Company(ESU DCC sound)
  
• ACME E655 (ZIMO DCC sound)
  

Also 5 wagons

• 2 x ROCO FS Coil wagons
  
• ROCO FS flat wagon
  
• Electrotren FS sliding wall wagon
  
• ROCO EANOS FS open wagon
  

I have also bought some Peco code 75 but I'm not sure what the trackplan is yet. Sorry it's not much to get excited about....

[gridwatcher]

Lovely stuff and nearly as esoteric as our Portuguese plans....wires though eek! I love those piggy little diesels. Have fun

[mastanec]

Hello Squeaky, hello all,

 

I am new to RMweb and I am H0 continental modeller, to be precise - Czech.

 

I am currently living in Ireland, it is not too much continentally orientated, althought some shops do have some EU rolling stock, typically German.

I get most of my stuff online or via contacts in CZ.

 

Congrats to you Squeaky for choosing Czech/Euro prototype to modell, there aren't too many foreigners whom would actually modell Czech railways.

 

Now to class 753/T478.3 - yes they indeed are the same only the naming starting T is old decomissioned system

 

_ (without letter) - steam loco

E - electric DC loco

S - electric AC loco

ES - electric multisystem loco

EM - DC electric unit

SM - AC electric unit

N - non powered car (part of unit)

T - diesel (various form of power transmission) loco

TL - turbine loco

M - diesel/motor railcar

U - narrow gauge traction vehicle, if as a second letter then narrow gauge vehicle of that traction type

A - accumulator loco

TA - hybrid - diesel/accu in this case

 

numbers, lets take Squeakys T478.3 as example

 

T - diesel engine (with electric power transmition)

4 - 4 powered axis

7 (+3*10) - 100 km/h maximum speed in kilometres per hour

8 (+10) - 18t weight per axis (metric tons) 72t for this class where actual loco weight is 73ton (less fuel)

.

3 - 4th construction series (zero also counts)

 

the new naming system is different, only the 1st number determines traction type

 

1 - DC loco

2 - AC loco

3 - multisystem ele. loco

4 - DC unit

5 - AC unit

6 - multisystem ele. unit

7 - diesel/motor engine

8 - diesel/motor railcar

9 - control car for reversible trains

 

however your loco by Rivarossi is the "Reko" (re-constrcution) version 753.5

 

Roco does make nice "Guy with glasses" but the Bardot is disaster, for someone whom has never seen the loco in real may be okay, but there are many mistakes made by the manufacturer, the most hitting are rectangulous lentil like shaped (dunno what else to call it) side windows.

 

If you will be interested in buying Bardot then i recommend Czech firm MTB whom makes those in so many color mutations .

see comparison of Roco and MTB on http://www.modely.bi...-ve-fotografii/

(roco is red/orange + white, MTB is the dark red one).

 

Someone was mentioning old PIKO stuff from GDR 20+ yrs old - don't go for this, forget about snail slow speeds on shunting and quiet driving operation. Also detail on these models are bulky, big.

However these are good as first train for kiddo as these models can handle a bit harsh handling.

 

 

New models from Roco, Piko, Fleischmann and others bear more detail than their pre-revolution (thats how we call it over there) precedesors.

 

 

Someone mentioned thicker wheel profile and flange - the old ones were literarly massive, the new ones are usually in accordance to European Modellers Norms - NEM 310 Wheelset and Track Compatibility.

 

Many modellers are opting for RP25 more and more, since the track quality goes up more and more.

 

And that you wouldn't say I'm selfish here is a model of hopper car Faccs (Sas) of CSD (Ceskoslovesnske Statni Drahy/Czechosovak State Railways) which I am currently building.

 

Also a technical drawing of T478.3 from Modelar Feb/1989 (Modeller magazine), here you will see difference between the Reko version you have and original :

credits to Jan Rychtera for drawing, for educational purposes only

 

(Sorry all for spam - long post)

[gridwatcher]

Hello Squeaky, hello all,

 

I am new to RMweb and I am H0 continental modeller, to be precise - Czech.

 

I am currently living in Ireland, it is not too much continentally orientated, althought some shops do have some EU rolling stock, typically German.

I get most of my stuff online or via contacts in CZ.

 

Congrats to you Squeaky for choosing Czech/Euro prototype to modell, there aren't too many foreigners whom would actually modell Czech railways.

 

Now to class 753/T478.3 - yes they indeed are the same only the naming starting T is old decomissioned system

 

_ (without letter) - steam loco

E - electric DC loco

S - electric AC loco

ES - electric multisystem loco

EM - DC electric unit

SM - AC electric unit

N - non powered car (part of unit)

T - diesel (various form of power transmission) loco

TL - turbine loco

M - diesel/motor railcar

U - narrow gauge traction vehicle, if as a second letter then narrow gauge vehicle of that traction type

A - accumulator loco

TA - hybrid - diesel/accu in this case

 

numbers, lets take Squeakys T478.3 as example

 

T - diesel engine (with electric power transmition)

4 - 4 powered axis

7 (+3*10) - 100 km/h maximum speed in kilometres per hour

8 (+10) - 18t weight per axis (metric tons) 72t for this class where actual loco weight is 73ton (less fuel)

.

3 - 4th construction series (zero also counts)

 

the new naming system is different, only the 1st number determines traction type

 

1 - DC loco

2 - AC loco

3 - multisystem ele. loco

4 - DC unit

5 - AC unit

6 - multisystem ele. unit

7 - diesel/motor engine

8 - diesel/motor railcar

9 - control car for reversible trains

 

however your loco by Rivarossi is the "Reko" (re-constrcution) version 753.5

 

Roco does make nice "Guy with glasses" but the Bardot is disaster, for someone whom has never seen the loco in real may be okay, but there are many mistakes made by the manufacturer, the most hitting are rectangulous lentil like shaped (dunno what else to call it) side windows.

 

If you will be interested in buying Bardot then i recommend Czech firm MTB whom makes those in so many color mutations .

see comparison of Roco and MTB on http://www.modely.bi...-ve-fotografii/

(roco is red/orange + white, MTB is the dark red one).

 

Someone was mentioning old PIKO stuff from GDR 20+ yrs old - don't go for this, forget about snail slow speeds on shunting and quiet driving operation. Also detail on these models are bulky, big.

However these are good as first train for kiddo as these models can handle a bit harsh handling.

 

 

New models from Roco, Piko, Fleischmann and others bear more detail than their pre-revolution (thats how we call it over there) precedesors.

 

 

Someone mentioned thicker wheel profile and flange - the old ones were literarly massive, the new ones are usually in accordance to European Modellers Norms - NEM 310 Wheelset and Track Compatibility.

 

Many modellers are opting for RP25 more and more, since the track quality goes up more and more.

 

And that you wouldn't say I'm selfish here is a model of hopper car Faccs (Sas) of CSD (Ceskoslovesnske Statni Drahy/Czechosovak State Railways) which I am currently building.

 

Also a technical drawing of T478.3 from Modelar Feb/1989 (Modeller magazine), here you will see difference between the Reko version you have and original :

credits to Jan Rychtera for drawing, for educational purposes only

 

(Sorry all for spam - long post)

 

Anyone interested in buying a rather nice Czech Electric? ES 499xxxx Red/Cream livery..... let me know!

[mastanec]

Anyone interested in buying a rather nice Czech Electric? ES 499xxxx Red/Cream livery..... let me know!

 

Hi Gridwatcher, is it the PIKO one? Or new A.C.M.E. ? any pics?

 

edit: is it this one?

 

 

piko no, acme yes

 

Hehe, besides I haven't noticed earlier that Squeaky said he will do Italian

[gridwatcher]

Older one I guess? 

[squeaky]

Sorry I haven't posted for a while I have been busy buying stuff but not much else!

 

Thanks goto to Mastanec for the D753 drawing, you gotta love those Goggles.

 

I am definately doing Italian, I have now got
 

• 3 Diesel locos
• 1 Electric loco
• 1 DMU
• 7 wagons

All but one of the locos has sound. Here is my favourite.

 

This is an ACME E655 not what you would call cheap but a very good runner and lots of detail, I have fitted a Zimo MX645R and a cube speaker, it was a tight fit but it sounds good. The bad news is it looks like i'm putting up Catenery

 

Now the next stage is to draw up a track plan for my empty 8ft by 18" baseboard. I have been inspired by a couple of Italian layouts which are "Asciano dal Lamone" and "Tre Ponti" but I haven't decided on a traclkplan, however these are the elements I would like to include.

• Catenary
• A through station
• A goods shed
• A small single loco shed

That's all for now. I'll leave you with a closeup of a Goggles which is a D753 Diesel loco.

[mp55aec]

That Goggles looks amazing, a nice piece of kit

[rekoboy]

 

 

Is it true that PIKO and Schlicht (spelling?) had export quality and Comecon quality for the models they prduced?, I was told the export models were of a better finish,

Hello!

The situation with model railways in the GDR was simple - everything which passed the toughest quality controls went for export, and, sadly, anything which was saleable but had flaws went on to the home market. My friend Günther and I have Piko and BTTB packaging with 'Zweite Wahl' (second quality) on it and I am still using a Piko power unit that came in plain packaging - always a clear sign of a failed inspection! As far as rolling stock was concerned it was often wheels which failed the test - I have replaced most of my older TT rolling stock wheels with wheelsets from ModMüller which are fantastic, even with original bearings.

[squeaky]

I setup my US layout and gave the Italians a run out!

 

Here are all four of my Italian fleet (the ones with sound) I have another D443 awaitng funds for a sound chip.

 

 

Here they are all neatly lined up.

 

That's all for now, cheers and a Happy New Year to all.

[Allegheny1600]

A lovely looking collection they are as well!

It will be enjoyable observing this little bit of Italy develop.

Happy new year to you too,

John E.

[A1X]

i ve always been fond  of those Goggles ,i look forward to this developing. 

[mastanec]

I'll be getting Goggles older sister this year - Bardot T478.1 same frame, just different casing.

hope the ones with yellow warning stripe will be again this year, otherwise will end up with the very first one without stripe

 

also gotta love Goggles in the same color scheme:

 

here you go some Goggles pics: http://diskuze.modely.biz/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7029&hilit=753+18&sid=0431ad3e8e02520bcedab052405670f7&start=15

and here: 753 http://www.prototypy.cz/?rada=753 and 754 http://www.prototypy.cz/?rada=754 (you have to click on the list - Popis a fotografie řady 754 - on the left to get directed to pics on , they are divided by series run usually after 50 locomotive numbers)

 

also, since Squeaky has found this topic - Continental H0 - I would like to continue in this one since the name is more than appropriate.

so I'll be posting about my models, Czech and Euro ones.

 

Next time I will have the hopper car from my 1st post finished, so more pic to come

also 2 brass etched tin locos kits arrived this week, my first etchings

 

I will spoil a bit - one of them is THCME3/CME3/ЦМE3

[mickey9]

Re Italian modelling,I prefer to model the 1950s/60s era.Got a few items recently that I can recommend:-

Rivarossi E431 and E432 3 phase AC early rod drive electrics

Rivarossi ALN556 early 2 car DMU brown

Oskar ALTN444 oberservation car DMU lime green (rare)

Rivarossi ALE840 early 2 car EMU brown

Rivarossi Gr.741 2-8-2 Crosti boiler version (wierd)

ACME D342 diesel brown nice small diesel

ACME ALE88 prewar 2-car hi-speed EMU white/red (rare,beautiful model).

Thanks to Winco,Hobby Shop Faversham,Kernow Models and C&M Carlisle for excellent service!

Also,Sommerfeldt FS catenary is available online from Westminster Miniatures (AKA Blackwells of Hawkwell),highly recommended (as a satisfied customer of all these.)

Happy modelling to all.

Mickey9.

[mickey9]

correction to my earlier post:the Ale840 EMU is by Vi-trains,not Rivarossi.Alsotwo I forgot to mention:Rivarossi D250 shunter and E444 diesel (original version.)Vi-trains Continental items ,and Os.Kar and especially ACME,are of very high quality.

Now building a small shelf layout (due to lack of space,will have to be for display only.)

Mickey9

[squeaky]

I haven't done much with my foray into Italy at the moment.

I'm getting more interested in the Czech locos, the goggles and the Bardot look great. I'm tempted to buy a Roco Bardot.....

[mastanec]

Hi guys, gonna bumo this up a little

Took me a long time to decide, I missed the first limited edition with diferent numbers, this will be home next week, its not ROCO, its Czech made MTB, will post some tech info when model is home:

 

and some photos of kit built rolling stock in the evening

[roundhouse]

I missed this thread.

 

I have one of the Roco goggles but I am going to order one of the MTB Bardots in the next few days. They are nice models having seen them in the flesh in a Prague model shop last Easter.

 

Look forward to your photos.

 

Ian

[mastanec]

Another update before I get outa work,

I have also commited myself to buy the goggles (the one few posts above)  in the same livery like the Bardot in my previous post

My gf is gonan kill me and move me out with all the trains

[mastanec]

so just got home and made promised pics for you guys,

feel free to dissect me for the macro pics

 

two most left painted with Humbrol Matt70 two right Revel Matt37 (The revell one looks closer to former Czechoslovak prototype)

 

 

 

[mastanec]

So it took for the packages to arrive a little longer than I expected, but the waiting was worth it!!!

 

T478.1 Bardotka (MTB) and T478.3 Brejlovec (ROCO)

The Bardot weigts 615g (1.35lb) thanks to rigid metal frame, much more than the Goggles which feel considerably lighter.

It also has no whees with traction tyres (there's a spare axle in the box with those), the Goggles have a traction tyres fitted from manufacturer.

Both engines come with spare ploughs without hole for coupling Goggles and a summer plough for Bardot (for stationary display)

In next post, we'll have a look inside.

 

Few pics below (no detail parts fitted yet)

 

 

 

and hauling international express of 80'/90':

 

 

Started building this track ballaster "chopperdozator" Faccpp 411Vc whils waiting for my packages to arrive:

 

 

[mickey9]

Anybody tried the German dealer 'arstechnica' (available via Amazon UK) for Continental HO (especially for Marklin & Roco) ? Can highly recommend as I've sourced some hard to find items recently.PP is £10 per order but very quick delivery,3 days via DPD tracked with notification of a one hour window in which they will deliver.Bang on time every time.Only one or two of each in stock,so you have to be quick.Hope this is useful to someone out there.

[Adamphillip]

why is my internet security saying the is malware on the first page of the topic?

[mastanec]

Hello,

 

slowly, very slowly I am working on my model of "hopper-dozator" that I started quie a while ago.

It was really warm and nice summer over here so I spent time with summer leasure, bbq etc. or just lying down in tha garden

 

 

 

 

 

Still have to finish off some bits and pieces - buffers, railings, steps, brake installation, paint buffer beams and part of frame black according to prototype.

As well as replace wheels for RP25 as these look like pizza cutters

I have painted most off the thing before I will complete it, it would be rather difficult to airbrush afterwards due to complicated installations under short roofs at each end of the car.

 

I had no picure of Czechoslovak prototype from 80'es, there are many online, yet from current era.

One was sent to me by a fellow on czech forum:

 

 

I have decided to model this one since it has quite intrikate proportions and a lot of interesting detail to model.

It is my first scratchbuilt model, I think I'm doing well, but you be the judge.

 

I may try to biuld some more in future but not completely scratchbuilt, it has taken a lot of time,

already gotten test 3d/stereolithography prints, would also like to try vector laser engraving (to preserve plasticity of ribs on the walls),

photoetch may be a way to go too for very detailed and model yet for loss of plasticity of the ribs.

 

Next update in a while

 

 

 

why is my internet security saying the is malware on the first page of the topic?

 

Nothing here

[squeaky]

Looks pretty good to me so far, there is alot of pipes and tank detail to be added