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Hi,

 

I'm looking for drawings/pictures of the former District Railway Steam Engines L.30 and L.31 for a possible OO layout I'm thinking about doing. I already have some photographs from a couple of books about LT steam but I can't find any drawings or any detailed shots of the pair.

 

Can anyone help with that? I know they were built by the Hunslet Engine Company (Wks.1674 & 1675/1931) and are 0-6-0Ts.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

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There were a set of 4mm scale drawings published in Model Railway News. I think it was the March 1969 issue. I know it has a very stylised illustration of a streamlined blue coronation on the cover. Have a look on Ebay, I picked up a copy quite cheaply.

 

Charlie

 

(Edit) I tell a lie, it is May 1968, here's a link to Ebay

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-NEWS-Magazines-1967-1968-1969-1-50-each-FREEPOST-on-5-Items-/231019330919?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&var=&hash=item35c9d33d67

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Thanks guys. I've registered on district dave and have a copy of that magazine on the way. Cheers :)

 

Jon

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And a couple of weeks later, here is the result awaiting printing from shapeways :)

 

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Thanks for all the help :)

 

Jon

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Blimey, I wish I was as quick off the mark as that on CAD! She looks gorgeous. Have you thought about the chassis? Are you planning on having it etched, or cutting a proprietary one around?

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Thanks L49 :) re chassis, I've designed it around the Bachmann Standard 2 2-6-0 + T chassis minus the tender and leading wheels. Ironically, it has near enough the exact same wheel base as the LT Hunslets.

 

Jon

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Thanks L49 :) re chassis, I've designed it around the Bachmann Standard 2 2-6-0 + T chassis minus the tender and leading wheels. Ironically, it has near enough the exact same wheel base as the LT Hunslets.

 

Jon

Apologies to all for resurrectign this old topic, but I am thinking about building one of these locos myself, and was wondering whether you finished the loco?

 

Any tips would be greatly appreciated..

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Apologies to all for resurrectign this old topic, but I am thinking about building one of these locos myself, and was wondering whether you finished the loco?

 

Any tips would be greatly appreciated..

IIRC the body is still available on Shapeways. But getting hold of the chassis it was designed for is nigh on impossible it seems, so I skipped ordering one as I'd also like an L30/31 for a Lillie Bridge layout I'm slowly working on when not thinking about other layout plans.

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IIRC the body is still available on Shapeways. But getting hold of the chassis it was designed for is nigh on impossible it seems, so I skipped ordering one as I'd also like an L30/31 for a Lillie Bridge layout I'm slowly working on when not thinking about other layout plans.

You mean this bodyshell http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk/oo-gauge-engines/

 

and

 

http://www.shapeways.com/product/R8DBDEREH/bm4-401-00-scale-london-transport-hunslet-l30-l31?li=shareProduct

 

At the moment I'm having difficulty identifying the Standard 2 2-6-0 Bachmann model to which Trainfan "Jon" referred in post 7. Can anyone help me i ncase i come across one at a swapmeet?

 

So I'm contemplating scratch building a chassis and using Gibson wheels. But that still leaves me short of the con rods and valve gear.

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You mean this bodyshell http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk/oo-gauge-engines/

 

and

 

http://www.shapeways.com/product/R8DBDEREH/bm4-401-00-scale-london-transport-hunslet-l30-l31?li=shareProduct

 

At the moment I'm having difficulty identifying the Standard 2 2-6-0 Bachmann model to which Trainfan "Jon" referred in post 7. Can anyone help me i ncase i come across one at a swapmeet?

 

So I'm contemplating scratch building a chassis and using Gibson wheels. But that still leaves me short of the con rods and valve gear.

 

 

Yes thats the one I meant.

 

The chassis it refers to is IIRC, the Bachmann Ivatt class 2 2-6-0, which hasn't iirc been in the Bachmann range for a few years now, and is hard to find (as a chassis at least) at a reasonable enough price to be viable.

 

Finding a suitable etched chassis would be a much better solution.

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Yes thats the one I meant.

 

The chassis it refers to is IIRC, the Bachmann Ivatt class 2 2-6-0, which hasn't iirc been in the Bachmann range for a few years now, and is hard to find (as a chassis at least) at a reasonable enough price to be viable.

 

Finding a suitable etched chassis would be a much better solution.

Thanks for that info. Very useful

 

Whilst the "Standard 2" donor chassis provides the valve gear as well, the driving wheels are too large, the prototype being 5ft dia, as against the Hunslet's 4ft 2in dia. So I'd be a bit concerned that the dimensions of the Shapeways body have been "adjusted" (compressed heightwise) to compensate for the large diameter wheels. Otherwise the loco will stand too tall on the track.

 

I'm currently looking at using the Bachmann J72 chassis. - Wheelbase 6ft 8in + 7ft 0in, Wheel diameter 4ft 1 1/4 in dia. - Very close to the Hunslet's 6ft 6in + 6ft 6in and 4ft 2in Wheel diameter. The slightly longer wheelbase wouldn't notice, especially if designed with the centre driver in the right place. Just the valve gear to source now. I was wondering if the Alan Gibson BR Class 2 valve gear would do?

 

If you're still after an etched chassis, what about the Alan Gibson J72 one?.

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So it looks like no one in RM Web land has got as far as a running example of the District Railway/LT Hunslets L30/31.

 

Pity. If you have, please share a photo with us.

 

 

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Thanks guys. I've registered on district dave and have a copy of that magazine on the way. Cheers :)

 

Jon

Well done for having the patience.

 

I applied for registration on District Dave's a couple of years back. There came a point in the process where they wanted me to provide a kind of curriculum vitae. I thought, "Blimey, it's only an enthusiasts online forum, not an employment application. Blow this for a lark" and proceeded no further.  Reading between the lines, I think that there had been some internal politics and trolling going on, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with me and I really wasn't interested.

 

Maybe things are more relaxed now, but I notice that the level of activity on the site is glacial. It's a pity, really.

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I would like to see r2r versions of Met G,H and K class locos, along with appropriate Dreadnought coaching stock. Being a rather niche area of interest, this is probably unlikely to happen. Mind you, Bachmann were prepared to model a piece of fanciful nonsense (the London Transport L150 Prairie tank), which I would place in a category similar to that of Thomas the Tank Engine.

 

I expect that LT Museum sales potential had much to do with this. 

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I suspect we have got to the end of the list of models that are economically viable, unless someone is prepared to pay up front. It is the big colourful named locos that make the real money, although I suspect it was the tourist gift potential that paid for Bachmann to produce their recent mode.

In ModelRailway Express Simon Kohler echos this, and he should know, and he suggests a re-introduction of British TT, but I can't see this happening. British HO would have a better chance as it uses same track as OO. .

The future for specialist interest models has to be technology such as 3D printing. The hobby is more than just collecting, which is what it has started to turn into.

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.....The future for specialist interest models has to be technology such as 3D printing. The hobby is more than just collecting, which is what it has started to turn into.

I so agree with both statements.

 

I'm 3D printing my District/LT Hunslet at home, not as a complete body shell but as individual panels, as my 3D drawing skills still leave much to be desired, and it takes time to learn how to get the best out of 3D drawing programs. Even doing it. as I am, as individual panels which need to be assembled to produce the finished article, it will give me much better dimensional accuracy than using styrene sheet or sheet metal given my inadequate measuring accuracy and cutting skills.

 

There seem to be so many calls for everything to be produced as RTR nowadays that sometimes I wonder whether we're modellers as in model "designers and engineers which is what scratchbuilding a model entails, or just landscape artists wanting something moving in our diaoramas. I fully appreciate that not everyone possesses the modelling skills to scratchbuild from sheet and sectional materials, or has access to a 3D design program and printer, but making it myself makes the hobby so much more interesting for me than going down to the local model shop or scouring the internet to buy an RTR model..

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You've seen the box lid artwork,

 

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And here's what's going to be inside the box.

 

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The chassis is from a Bachmann split chassis J72. I still have an awful lot to do, especially the Dome, Chimney, Piston Blocks, Sand Boxes, Valve Gear and Steps, So it won't be finished for this Christmas.

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Have finally been able to resume work on the loco.

 

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The cab roof is plasticard, but the rest of the bodywork and footplate are all 3D printed.

 

The funnel is a little too narrow at the base, and I may have to redo it. But all in all, I think it is capturing the look of the original quite well.

 

At the moment, I'm trying to work out how best to fabricate the smokebox door and piston housings, which will be 3D printed, possibly with some plasticard additions, and the valve gear will have to be etched NS.

 

Incidentally, I've discovered the DeLuxe Materials "Plastic Magic" glues PLA ( the material used by my 3D printer) to styrene.

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