Jon Gwinnett Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 My nascent Dutch plan, an inglenook based on the yard at Amsterdam westhaven is moving forward slowly. However, until now, one key element was missing, the ubiquitous MaK 6400/6500. There have been kits, and various other MaK locos renumbered to look like the 64s, but the only vaguely accurate model ws fromMarklin/Trix and that suffered from hopelessly under scale running gear, particularly the bogies. However, in timely fashion, the cavalry have arrived, in the form of Belgian firm Rocky Rail, who announce at Nuremburg a line of super high detailed MaKs. My first example arrived today, and frankly this is the best Christmas present I can remember! However, I'm struggling to upload photos, so for the moment you'll have to take my word for it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jon Gwinnett Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 The whole package oozes quality, with metal handrails (US manufacturers take note!) and most of the detail ready fitted, including the distinctive shark fin aerial, and even with the wheel sip markings on the wheel tyres. Apologies for the rather rubbish iPad shots, but I couldn't wait for daylight and decent shots with the big camera, I just wanted to share it tonight! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Looks lovely. All you need now are some vans to let it play with! Although I suspect you may already have some. Looking forward to seeing your scenario develop. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Thanks Mike, as you say, I do have one or two vans already :-) This is the prototype: http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyst/8496240524/ A real life inglenook, hemmed in by lines curving away from the main yard at both ends, this loading pad or "transload" in US parlance is used for all sorts of cargo. The line nearest the hardstanding works out around 69cm long in 1/87 And here's a MaK in the same yard http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyst/10496005663/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawfin Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Lovely! It looks distractingly like CIÉ K801 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Lovely! It looks distractingly like CIÉ K801 Not so far fetched, both from the MaK stable, if you model in HO I think Roco or someone does a V65 which is essentially the same thing. Edited December 21, 2013 by Jon Gwinnett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Very nice John, I have a couple of the old ones - looks like I shall have to upgrade. Easier than doing a DUKW! Regards, Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I was looking at these on http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Rocky-Rail/108-4-004001-213407-0-0-0-22-10-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html, looks like a great looking model. I don't know anything about Rocky Rail, so how does it run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Hi Jon I love the look of your new MaK as from similar stable as the DB class V90 - 294 which I adore from watching the Plattling Bahnhof webcam. Here`s a pic of the DB V90 enjoy your new layout as you progress and the future running of your Mak 64 on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 I was looking at these on http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Rocky-Rail/108-4-004001-213407-0-0-0-22-10-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html, looks like a great looking model. I don't know anything about Rocky Rail, so how does it run? Runs very nicely, only tested on DC so far as I need to dig out a 21pin chip, but reasonably quiet (can hear rail joints over any slight gear noise) and very smooth from a crawl up to a steady and not unrealistic top speed. They do a sound fitted version, as well as DCC fitted, but I need two so decided to save a bit on initial outlay, I can always upgrade later. (I have a suspicion they all come fitted with a speaker even without a sound chip, I'll let you know once I have a chip and open it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Ken (yorkie Pudd) it's about time someone did a V90 to modern standards, the Roco version, while not bad, is showing its age now I think. Mind you, so is their V60 but that hasn't stopped me acquiring a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 For got to mention mine came from the firm whose link Squeaky posted, no connection other than as a satisfied customer, I'm looking forward to when they say my grey/yellow version is in stock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Now chipped with a cheapo Bachmann decoder I had spare, doesn't really have enough functions to do the model justice. As well as the main head and tail lights (separately switchable) the model also features a cab light, and even the tiny shunting lights at both ends of the hoods. The hoods themselves are a one piece metal casting, the finesse of the detail is very impressive. Running once chipped is fantastic, from inching along to belting around, a huge range of speeds, and very controllable. A better decoder would give even more control I suspect. And yes, it does have a speaker fitted, so a lok sound v.4 would fit right in. It really is a high quality model, I'm delighted with it, just need to build it somewhere suitable to run now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 With a few vans for Mike, and a poor attempt to show the shunting lights 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhBBob Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Now chipped with a cheapo Bachmann decoder I had spare, doesn't really have enough functions to do the model justice. As well as the main head and tail lights (separately switchable) the model also features a cab light, and even the tiny shunting lights at both ends of the hoods. The hoods themselves are a one piece metal casting, the finesse of the detail is very impressive. Running once chipped is fantastic, from inching along to belting around, a huge range of speeds, and very controllable. A better decoder would give even more control I suspect. And yes, it does have a speaker fitted, so a lok sound v.4 would fit right in. It really is a high quality model, I'm delighted with it, just need to build it somewhere suitable to run now. And Modellbahnshop Lippe will be happy to supply you with a V4 Sound Chip programmed for your loco - or similar prototype motor type if the prototype isn't available - and including postage for about £86. Yes, being outside the Euro does have its benefits ! No, I'm just a satisfied customer as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Yep, there's a sound file for MaK Vossloh 1200 series Locos that would do the trick, however there seems to be some grumbling on the inter web that the factory sound version is a bit "off" so we might need to wait for the Benelux equivalent of Legomanbiffo to do their thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) A few more beauty shots taken in what passes for daylight in Scotland at this time of year. 3 by jongwinnett, on Flickr 1 by jongwinnett, on Flickr For comparison, here is the Piko Expert version of the slightly more modern G1206 2 by jongwinnett, on Flickr And finally a double header (UM in French parlance, does anyone know what the Dutch equivalent is?) 4 by jongwinnett, on Flickr Edited December 22, 2013 by Jon Gwinnett 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Great pics there and very stunning detailed model it is. I must admit it is very tempting to do away with UK models and go HO for the mak 64 and roco V90, and model some euro shunting yard. Mmm choices choices choices 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Great pics there and very stunning detailed model it is. I must admit it is very tempting to do away with UK models and go HO for the mak 64 and roco V90, and model some euro shunting yard. Mmm choices choices choices These models just embarrass UK stuff, very expensive but you do get what you pay for!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen1975 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) And finally a double header (UM in French parlance, does anyone know what the Dutch equivalent is?) In Dutch it is "dubbeltractie". For more dutch railwayjargon go to : http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoorwegjargon. Have fun with you new vierenzestighonderd....... Groeten Jeroen. Edited January 11, 2014 by Jeroen1975 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen1975 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Some pics from the real one. Arnhem CS, almost everyting on this picture has been changed last 15 years Rotterdam Europort. Rotterdam Europort. Rotterdam Botlek Rotterdam Europort Groeten Jeroen 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Jon - just picked this up. Nice looking loco. Nice idea for the layout, too. I have a Dutch layout in the works - about 90% ready. It should be in CM in March and at the Nottingham show in March also. I am very interested in the new loco as I totally agree with you re the other examples. I am currently making do with the Trix version as the best of a bad lot! The Piko is currently on Ebay and I have a box containing parts for 2 of the Liliput ones which are a devil to fit with decoders as well as the dimensional inaccuracy. I see that the grey and red Railion versions are not yet available. Fingers crossed they might be by March! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I agree that the trix is the best of the rest, the piko is a good model, but of a G1206 not a G1205 and the differences are striking, particularly the long hood. I don't know the lilliput one but from reading online it doesn't look like a contender. I've been a bit distracted by the arrival of the Hornby sentinel, and partly because I hate building baseboards. I could do with finding a source for the blue one inch polystyrene in Scotland, not found one yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I agree that the trix is the best of the rest, the piko is a good model, but of a G1206 not a G1205 and the differences are striking, particularly the long hood. I don't know the lilliput one but from reading online it doesn't look like a contender. I've been a bit distracted by the arrival of the Hornby sentinel, and partly because I hate building baseboards. I could do with finding a source for the blue one inch polystyrene in Scotland, not found one yet. The Lilliput one is overall too short but the trucks/bogies (as far as I know) are right. Re blue polystyrene, I take it you mean the insulating material sold in large sheets. I got a sheet some years ago from a specialist dealer in Worcester. I took my Stanley knife so I could cut it into manageable pieces and get it in the car! Have you got any dealers in your part of the world? Edited January 12, 2014 by Northpoint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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