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Have continued to work on my shed - to make it a 'museum of my life'- more photos as/when I can.

 

But also have been working on the layout. The four scenic boards have suffered and will need care and attention, but my three top priorities have been ROUTE SELECTION, ROUTE SELECTION and ROUTE SELECTION! In fact most have my operators have threatened not to do any more shows until the route selection was in place.

 

Operation at our first two exhibitions suffered because the promised route selection never materialised. Our tame 'expert' had three attempts at getting it to work, but then had to pull out of the team due to health issues. An appeal for help has resulted in finding a modeller who had experience of using the software, but lives miles away and a IT expert with no particular interest in model railways who lived 10 minutes walk away - put the two together (via mobile phone) and 'hey presto!' we have progress!

 

My new IT friend and I spent about six hours over two Sundays trying to programme the software and we 90% cracked it last week but we could only set up one end of the fiddle yard in my new shed. So today we set up the whole 26ft long fiddle yard and whilst there were some teething troubles eventually we got things sorted.

 

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On the left we have keen operator (and China railfan) Gordon Massey and on the right we have IT guru and model maker (not railways) Paul Richardson.

 

The route selection is now put to bed - still some very minor issues which can be by-passed by careful operation. However, it seems 'unfortunate' that hardware/software sold for the 'average enthusiast' seems to need such specialist expertise. I would never have coped without Paul and (name withheld lest he be pestered by others for help) - not for the average enthusiast!!

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I don't know which software you are using for route selection (the options I know of are JMRI and RR&Co), but at least one of them took a LOT of my time to make it do what I wanted, not what it wanted, and it still has some...abnormalities...in the programming, and that's using a whole metric ship full of flagmen to do what I want it to do !  There are 6 sheets of switchboards used for LM, and only 3 of them are physical representative of Long Marton and the staging yards.

 

The biggest problem I found was that there often is no easy way in RR&Co to link an action to an atribute.  At times, that has been very frustrating, resulting in extra little blocks of "code" in the form of flagmen operated by multi conditions to get a single thing to happen.  The lack of documentation inline has also been a bit of a @#[email protected]#[email protected]#, when I go back to make changes I have to look to see what exactly I did to make something work before I break it.

 

Two Tone Green posted in .dcc about how to bend RR&Co 5.x to your wishes, along with Beast 66066.  

 

I've never tried the Digitrax firmware way of route selecting, and are probably much happier not to !.  How I would deal with route selection using RR&Co or JMRI is to use dummy switch instructions, probably in the range of 1-100, keeping the actual turnout #'s much higher.  That way, you would address #1 track as #1 (and possibly #2 for the "out" end...), and so forth, and then cascade from there to operate the turnouts as needed.  For Long Marton, early on I ended up with a spreadsheet of the assigned #'s to each DS-64 (mostly) used for controlling the Torti.  That includes the ID #, and the range of outputs used.  That made it simpler when I found troubles with particularly the DS 54's (obsolete) that I had used for specific tasks.  

 

James

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Beijiao announce at Warley 2019. 

 

 

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Am building up a new train for the industrial line. They come in plain black and a sheet of decals!!

 

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One down, eleven to go!

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On 05/07/2019 at 06:39, peach james said:

I don't know which software you are using for route selection (the options I know of are JMRI and RR&Co), but at least one of them took a LOT of my time to make it do what I wanted, not what it wanted, and it still has some...abnormalities...in the programming, and that's using a whole metric ship full of flagmen to do what I want it to do !  There are 6 sheets of switchboards used for LM, and only 3 of them are physical representative of Long Marton and the staging yards.

 

The biggest problem I found was that there often is no easy way in RR&Co to link an action to an atribute.  At times, that has been very frustrating, resulting in extra little blocks of "code" in the form of flagmen operated by multi conditions to get a single thing to happen.  The lack of documentation inline has also been a bit of a @#[email protected]#[email protected]#, when I go back to make changes I have to look to see what exactly I did to make something work before I break it.

 

Two Tone Green posted in .dcc about how to bend RR&Co 5.x to your wishes, along with Beast 66066.  

 

I've never tried the Digitrax firmware way of route selecting, and are probably much happier not to !.  How I would deal with route selection using RR&Co or JMRI is to use dummy switch instructions, probably in the range of 1-100, keeping the actual turnout #'s much higher.  That way, you would address #1 track as #1 (and possibly #2 for the "out" end...), and so forth, and then cascade from there to operate the turnouts as needed.  For Long Marton, early on I ended up with a spreadsheet of the assigned #'s to each DS-64 (mostly) used for controlling the Torti.  That includes the ID #, and the range of outputs used.  That made it simpler when I found troubles with particularly the DS 54's (obsolete) that I had used for specific tasks.  

 

James

 

Hello James

 

Many thanks for your interest in my problems, but my biggest problem is that I barely understood a word of your post - literally! I have reluctantly concluded that I will NEVER understand advanced electronics - I literally don't understand the concepts. 

 

BTW the software is LOCOANALISE

 

Now here is the bad news ………………...

 

Since our totally successful test session in the garden a few weeks back I made some VERY VERY minor electrical (not electronic) upgrades to the track and decided to just check they worked before packing the fiddle yard away and forgetting about it until the Fareham show in October.

 

I tested one end of the fiddle yard - TOTAL failure!

 

I am gutted...……………….

 

NO ROUTE SELECTION AT ALL!  But worse than that all DAC20's are not responding at all and so individual points are not working and so  we are in a far worse situation than ever. A few DS64 controlled points are responding but none controlled by the DAC20's. So I am only glad that I decided to be cautious and test the boards again - at least I have 9 weeks to get things sorted.

 

I have spent hours and hours on the phone to three of the UK's top Digitrax experts and they cannot explain what has happened. One of those is going to make a site visit soon and hopefully we can get to the bottom of it. 

 

I have now stopped worrying and moved on - it is a very weird problem - we have tried everything!!!  I just don't want to think about it again until my Digitrax expert comes and sees for himself.

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DCC UPDATE

 

AS regards my problems - nothing has made sense to me (as a complete non-expert) but more worringly nothing has made sense to the three experts I have been in contact with.

 

The DAB150 controls points linked to a DS64 but not to those connected to any DAC20. My dealer had one of the DAC20's back a few weeks ago and it worked with his DAB150.

 

I have now sent all the hardware - my DAB150 command station and 2 x DAC20 modules - back to my Digitrax-trained dealer I bought them from for testing.

 

I await his report.

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New business!

 

Does anyone reading this have any CHINESE HO stock they want rid of?
 

 

If you do PLEASE PM ME rather than post on this thread or you can email me on [email protected]

 

I'm not really looking for much, but I am looking for .................

 

1. A Bachmann S12 caboose

2. A green type 22 XL baggage with bright yellow (not cream) striping.

 

Are there any out there?

 

Paul

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On 10/08/2019 at 13:47, TEAMYAKIMA said:

DCC UPDATE

 

AS regards my problems - nothing has made sense to me (as a complete non-expert) but more worringly nothing has made sense to the three experts I have been in contact with.

 

The DAB150 controls points linked to a DS64 but not to those connected to any DAC20. My dealer had one of the DAC20's back a few weeks ago and it worked with his DAB150.

 

I have now sent all the hardware - my DAB150 command station and 2 x DAC20 modules - back to my Digitrax-trained dealer I bought them from for testing.

 

I await his report.

 

 

OK …….…………………….

 

Good news ……………….

 

Still not exactly convinced how this happened but it appears that the problem was that an internal electronic 'switch' inside the DB150 had been 'switched'. Once my dealer had discovered that this was the problem a simple return to factory settings seems to have solved all the problems.

 

FAREHAM EXHIBITION HERE WE COME!

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Have now turned my attention to other matters...…………...

 

A little maintenance ……………………..

 

The power buses use what I would call chocolate block connectors …………. the trouble is when trying to disconnect them sometimes this happens...………..

 

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The trouble is that if you try to straighten them with pliers they just snap off …………….. so replacement is needed...……….. trouble is that they came from Maplins!

 

So some careful 'knitting' is needed to replace just the two right hand pins ………… can you see the join?

 

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