yelrow Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hi, recently bought this, put on prog track, and reads all cvs, but all are 255, CV1 99/20/8/255/128, ID 99/20/8/255/128. Am aware that i can change CV8, to 33, to rest, but will that lose sounds/ functions. thanks. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Bought what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelrow Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Mehano 2/8/0 long island, supposedly DCC and sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil S Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Too much emphasis on whether you can read back the CVs!! Does it WORK? /.... test it with a 9V dc battery across the pickup wheels = does it move? (It may not , if it has been set to disable DC running) WRITE CV29 = 6 (short address, 28/128 steps, dc enabled) try loco 3 ... changing cv 29 might have reset the address to 3 but don't rely on it. WRITE CV1 to value 3 .... use a system which does not require read-back, or disable it in your system Then try Loco = 3 Your decoder MAY or MAYNOT support resetting on CV8=8 (or CV8= 2 or ...or ...or ) What make of decoder is it? What make were you TOLD it was? Does your programmer work well with sound decoders??? Is there a 'stay alive' capacitor in circuit ??? Help us to help you by giving some useful information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 May well be a pete! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelrow Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 PHIL, thanks, have not tested for DC, but will do. It is a lenz decoder.. Have 6 Hornby sound locos which work fine with Hornby Railmaster, and / or Elite. This was bought from private advert, which only said DCC, plus sound. No idea of current loco no, no instructions. Hence tried to change/ reset to new number, but dont want to lose sound, which can occur on reset. Am 72, and disabled, one handed typing only. This is first mehano loco. Actually belived the guy who said it was immaculate. He is right, loco, barely used. He has from looking externally, fitted decoder and speaker in tender. Difficult to supply much more info. john bill, whats a pete. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 John, What does the vendor say? He should know what's installed and what may or may not be done. And Lenz don't currently list sound decoders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelrow Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hi, Vendor is saying nothing, cant get reply to email, but he was going on hols. Lenz Gold decoder, has a sound add on, but dont yet know which one it is. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Guys, could it be something like a Digitrax sound only decoder installed with a Lenz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakydoke Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Lenz Gold decoders have the SUSI interface, for attaching sound only decoder modules (piggy-back), such as those from Digitrax etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil S Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Assuming you have opened the loco to see the decoder: First UNPLUG THE ADDON SOUND DECODER - WORK ON ONE PROBLEM AT A TIME Then test the Lenz - it is possible that the read-back was being affected / corrupted by the add-on sound decoder - these are best dealt with separately unless the procedure is KNOWN to modify one, without affecting the other accidentally. If you can identify the decoders, a google search will usually provide a copy of the manual for each of them. With ONLY the Lenz in circuit: retest to see if you can read the CVs - although I would skip this test,as reading is NOT a requirement for programming ! TEST it ON DC, - this may have been disabled. The decoder MIGHT have been left in a 'consist' using the consist address - is this likely ??? Reset it it with CV8 =8 or any other value suggested by Lenz Gold manual - this usually cures most problems Ty loco 3 Set CV29 to short address as previously suggested - does it accept a new address ? Once the loco motor is responding (and lights???) - replace the sound decoder - and read about SUSI sound - you mentioned Mehano as the loco make - it may therefore be a european make of decoder - their manuals are usually available on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelrow Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Phil, hi, thanks very much. Will have a look and report back. May be a day or so. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Lenz Gold decoders have the SUSI interface, for attaching sound only decoder modules (piggy-back), such as those from Digitrax etc. Not so much Digitrax decoders (which don't talk Susi), but decoders by Dietz (and anyone else doing the same sort of thing). It would be possible to have two decoders, a Lenz for motors and another for sound (such as Digitrax). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Uhlenbrok do susi as well but all their web stuff is in german so a tad difficult for me to get the gist of. It looks like we are all on the same page John with the Lenz having a piggy back sound module. Some one out their must have this rig and some instructions to go with it. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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