RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2016 I spent Sunday morning on the GCR Friends stand at the Autumn steam gala. Whilst I took the usual loco photos, it was also an opportunity to look at the GCR BR-era freight trains which were shunted at Loughborough. Here is a pair of BR Conflat A wagons, not in the smartest of condition and a few years since their last repaint. Simple question - to model a BR design Conflat, do you use the Parkside Dundas GWR container flat? http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/pic_PS39.jpg Or do you obtain a BR 10 foot chassis and build your own top? There are clearly detail differences such as buffers, brake gear and other items between the GW and BR designs. Is there a BR Conflat kit I've missed? I realise we're into 'HMRSPaul' territory here - see for many examples: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=Conflat The Conflat is a useful wagon, not least because even in the Diesel era many found new uses, such as runners for 03 shunters and Departmental purposes. Finally here's a handy Machinery wagon. I also took photos of 16T minerals, brake vans and others, maybe for another day. Dava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 M&M models have a brass kit listed for both a conflat 'A' with container plus a conflat 'B' http://modelrailwaywagons.co.uk/BR%20Page.htm (usual disclaimers) Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2016 Isn't the Slaters BR conflat exactly what you are after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 10, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2016 Good point, I'd not looked at Slaters. Dava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2016 The ones in your photo do seem to have GWR self contained buffers tho rather than BR type? I'm no expert but that machinery wagon is interesting as seems to have quite a short body compared to the wheelbase (ie a small overhang at each end). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hughes Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The machinery wagon is in fact a Single Bolster but with the bolster removed. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I built a Slater's Conflat a few years back - a very well produced kit. I wanted to model one from an earlier lot than the standard kit and Slater's happily swapped the oleo buffers for standard ones and the 8 shoe clasp brakegear for 4 shoe Morton. Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The ones in your photo do seem to have GWR self contained buffers tho rather than BR type? I'm no expert but that machinery wagon is interesting as seems to have quite a short body compared to the wheelbase (ie a small overhang at each end). The early ones were 15'6" over headstocks, with an 8' wheelbase; subsequent builds had longer wheelbases (first 9', then 10'), but retained the short overall length. Many of the last build were delivered as semi-permanently-coupled 'Twin Bolsters', used for 'Engineers' Bar' traffic from various locations to the West Midlands. The solo vehicles ended up as either Departmental stock (crane runners etc) or as Internal Users in various ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hughes Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I've had a go at modelling the other variants of the Conflat A, by using spare parts from the Slaters kits (the early diagrams had 4' 6" springs). Some of the early diagrams had 20.5" buffers which are available from Parkside Dundas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2016 Been a while since I last took a look at Slaters' website. Prices still very reasonable for such good kits. They should see plenty of new business when that Dapol Jinty becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The new Dapol wagons might affect sales a little at the prices that they are expected to retail at. I have got one on order. All I think I will need to do is change the couplings to instantor or screw link Paul R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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