autocoach Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel Never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel As the images unwind, like the circles that you find In the windmills of your mind! last four lines from the song "Windmills of Your Mind" 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Nick C said: I have just been reading a bit about windmills. It turns out that there were quire a few around here, including a number of 'Wind Engines' along the stations of the Basingstoke and Alton Light Railway - presumably as water pumps These mills were designed by John Wallis Titt and erected by his Woodcock Iron Works. Which I'm sure will set the average 11 year old schoolboy into a fit of giggles... And this 66-year-old ex-schoolboy. 3 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted July 12, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) Just another day in paradise waiting for the 7am service to arrive..... Edited July 12, 2022 by KNP 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonboy Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, St Enodoc said: And this 66-year-old ex-schoolboy. We play trains so I guessing there’s a little of the 11 year old schoolboy in all of us still. Thank god. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted July 12, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 Plan tidy up…. Seem to be heading in the right direction.. Will park for now 21 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Looks good to me. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel newling Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 A windmill has to be able to turn into the wind. That requires a track, concentric with the axis of the mill, as part of the mill footprint, rather like the track around a manually operated turntable. You may be a little pushed for space. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadLeaves Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Depends on the type. Sometimes just the top rotates. This one https://www.laceygreenwindmill.org.uk/ doesn't have a path around it. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think this is all becoming rather quixotic 🥸 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 You sure you want to enlarge the potato field? At the rate crates are unloaded and shed doors are rehung in Little Muddle, I would not be confident that a field so large would be harvested this side of Armageddon. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, nigel newling said: A windmill has to be able to turn into the wind. That requires a track, concentric with the axis of the mill, as part of the mill footprint, rather like the track around a manually operated turntable. You may be a little pushed for space. Agree I will be slightly pushing the envelope here but my plan is that the windmill is no longer in use so the area has become overgrown. As I am basing this on a picture I have of the windmill in 1925 where you can see a different type of roundhouse that allows the top to rotate. The current design was built in the 60’s when the top was strengthen with steel columns fixing the top solid. This windmill was of a sunken post type with exposed cross trees and quarter bars, these are now concealed within the roundhouse, which allowed the top to rotate 360. There will be a circular area around the building where the wheeled arm would have moved in the past. It will be tight but then on any layout we never really have enough room and we have to compromise. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, KNP said: Agree I will be slightly pushing the envelope here but my plan is that the windmill is no longer in use so the area has become overgrown. As I am basing this on a picture I have of the windmill in 1925 where you can see a different type of roundhouse that allows the top to rotate. The current design was built in the 60’s when the top was strengthen with steel columns fixing the top solid. This windmill was of a sunken post type with exposed cross trees and quarter bars, these are now concealed within the roundhouse, which allowed the top to rotate 360. There will be a circular area around the building where the wheeled arm would have moved in the past. It will be tight but then on any layout we never really have enough room and we have to compromise. The windmill will inevitably be a fairly large structure. You could make it to a slightly smaller scale, which would a) reduce the impact on the scene as a whole; and b) make the "tail wheel circle" (I'm sure it has a proper name) smaller too. Edited July 12, 2022 by St Enodoc 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, KNP said: I am basing this on a picture I have of the windmill in 1925 Anything like this one? https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/details-photo/brill-windmill-brill-buckinghamshire-this-post-mill-dates-to-1668-making-it-one-of-the-oldest-in-the-country-the-last-remaining-of-three-mills-that-were/MEV-11999390 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) One of the reasons I shared pictures of Woodhouse Eaves windmill as a project I fancy building is that it has a small footprint and the sails are turned into the wind manually via a ring gear on top of the tower. Unlike the old Airfix/Dapol one the roof of the stone tower is actually a timber skirt that rotates with the mill body. The base of the tower was only about twenty feet in diameter. Edited July 12, 2022 by MrWolf Picture 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 I would love to have a go at building a windmill such as this. I took a number of photos of the double overshot watermill at Dunster. Something else brewing in the background me thinks. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2022 If the mill doesn't look and sound like this one I think many will be displeased... Don't drink homemade cider kids! 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Windy Miller What a classic.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2022 Of possible interest: https://avoncroft.org.uk/avoncrofts-work/historic-buildings/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted July 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2022 Are we to assume that you might be incorporating a Dapol (ex Airfix) Windmill kit? - It isn't quite Brill, but it is similar and a good basis. Regards Chris H 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snailpace Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Kevin, Are you going to do Pippin Fort as well?? Camberwick Green was a blast from the past. When I first watched it I guess I didn’t notice Windy Miller’s dipsomania or his complete disregard for the sails which nearly took him out every time he walked into the mill…..😆 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Graham T said: I think this is all becoming rather quixotic 🥸 Oky Don Quixote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Metropolitan H said: Are we to assume that you might be incorporating a Dapol (ex Airfix) Windmill kit? - It isn't quite Brill, but it is similar and a good basis. Regards Chris H I plan to scratch build as much as possible. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I looked at that old kit and thought I would probably pinch the basic sails off it and not much more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: Oky Don Quixote Wasn't that Eddie Murphy's character in Shrek? Oh hang on, that was just DonQui.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) Kevin Please be sure to consider possible problems with scenery access and of reaching over the layout to re-rail wagons or locos. Using the full space where the control panel was may be a problem with access to the turnouts behind it. I would also consider putting the windmill on the other side of the tracks if possible. It would definitely be a sleeve snagger. Best. Edited July 12, 2022 by autocoach 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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