danstercivicman Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hello, I am planning a long term project to supersede my somewhat basic GCR minories style layout (Birmingham Hope St). The location I have selected is New Basford Station on the GCR. I think this will provide a nice scenic location where full length main line trains can run. I may have to make some changes to the plan and imagine that maybe there is a bridge at the far end (away from the tunnel cutting end) so that I can keep the length manageable. The layout would be 240 cm with two cassettes at each end. It will need to be portable and easy to store away so I am planning light boards and features for storage. I have found this excellent site- http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/map/planBookSection.php?planNo=5&row=4&col=5 And wondered if anyone had any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 I should add, track will be Peco code 75... point rodding will be installed before bsllasting and I'll try and learn from my earlier mistakes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 New Basford is a nice idea. Problem is that to model it realistically, you need a very long space. 240cm seems very modest for such a station in 4mm scale. After allowing for the pointwork, your goods sidings and platforms will be incredibly short. It might be better to compress one of the stations where the platform and goods yard overlapped to some greater degree. Just a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yeah, that's a very good point, do you know how long roughly it would be to say model from the tunnel to the north tip of the platform in oo? I do like the GCR It will be BR steam/diesel 1965ish My other idea is to only model half the station but have a GCR overbridge rather than an underbridge. The max space would be 3x 122cm portable base boards, which would give 366cm of scenic space? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 It looks around 3/8 mile which would be roughly 8 metres in 4mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Wow 8m that's huge! The other alternative I guess would be n guage... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 I think having printed some peco code 55 turnouts n guage would be the only way to realistically model New Basford... it also appears Bachman no longer stock the GCR station bits in oo... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Looking at the plans Culworth station might be better? It's on a curve as well so would use the space I have quite well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted March 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2017 You could always compress the area that you want to model to something more manageable. Just using RTL points and crossings will shorten the overall length even without cutting the lengths of sidings, loops, etc. Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Deffo, I will have to do that. I think I may have hit a good idea with Culworth station. It's on a curve and has (had) a magnificent 3 span arch bridge at one end with a typical GCR overbridge station at the other end. This would allow me to have a l shaped layout with a fiddleyard at either end. I'll post a sketch tomorrow but I think with 3-4 metres for the station it should be doable? Link to disused stations: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/culworth/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 I'd have to take liberties and say it wasn't shut in 1965 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My home station . I'm sorry but as you seem to have already realised you really need about 30 feet to do it some kind of justice from the tunnel mouth to Perry Road bridge. The goods shed at New Basford was a good bit bigger than most other GCR goods sheds as well. The trains would be similar to those seen on the Leicester South layout unless you're going to run them as they were after the London Midland region vandalised the line? Even then some of the colliery trips loaded quite well and there's always the York-Bournemouth which loaded to around 10-11 coaches. New Basford itself closing in 1964. This bit of video gives some idea of the trains involved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9pY7CUOmLU There used to some shot at New Basford on Youtube, it may still be there if you search for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 If you want to be semi-prototypical then I would suggest a station north of Rugby would work best - say Ashby Magna or Rothley. Rugby to Nottingham services (via these two stations) were the last to go. Also, Culworth is south of the Banbury line, so you would miss the Bournemouth-Newcastle expresses and some goods services. Ashby Magna was best for stopping services as the London semi-fasts stopped there. Had services stayed running, this wight well have stayed open too, whereas Rothley and Culworth were never very busy and likely would have closed anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Great footage that... I think I may have to look at Ashby Magna again. I do like Culworth in terms of shape but like you say it does seem very rural. What I may end up doing is taking bits and trying to stay prototypical but... I only have 4-5 metres for the scenic space... Those green coaches- were they the Bournemouth train or a football special? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Great footage that... I think I may have to look at Ashby Magna again. I do like Culworth in terms of shape but like you say it does seem very rural. What I may end up doing is taking bits and trying to stay prototypical but... I only have 4-5 metres for the scenic space... Those green coaches- were they the Bournemouth train or a football special? Possibly the Bournemouth but on summer saturdays all sorts turned up, there were several inter-regional trains which only ran on saturday and had a set of coaches allocated from each end, so the coaches worked one way the first saturday and returned the next. Not really all that efficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well I managed to find a track plan of Ashby magna.... it seems to have a huge goods yard... I think Culworth would be more manageable but more boring...hmm stuck again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 This is the plan site http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/map/planBookSection.php?planNo=25&row=2&col=2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Loughboro could be made quite short Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Loughboro could be made quite short There's always Carrington but it's not an island platform Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Carrington looks interesting as it's in s cutting with tunnels at both ends... I'm struggling to find it on the plans above, did seven coach trains really just rattle through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 This shows pretty much the whole station: According to Wikipedia 140 metres long, closed in 1928 but stayed largely intact apart from the footbridge and platform edging until the final closure of the line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Found it: http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/map/planBookSection.php?planNo=6&row=2&col=5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Great stuff so 140cm in Scale, that's achievable. It would be abit operationally dull but... prototypical. I'd have to delay its closure by a few thirty years it's got some great brickwork. Loughborough was also mentioned- that seems to have extensive goods facilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Loughborough was also mentioned- that seems to have extensive goods facilities Rationalisation is your friend - just assume it had largely been transferred to the Midland station after the LMR took over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yup, I will draw up some plans... I gotta be honest I'm still liking Culworth... I think rugby central may also be doable but the layout needs to curve to the left... If anyone had any spare Bachmann GCR buildings please let me know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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