Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I just took delivery of a set of 6 wheel Pullman coach bogie and found this mystery bogie in with it. Does anyone have any idea what it is please??? It could be american as the seller had some US stuff for sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Could this be it??? It is still a long way away if you ask me. Maybe a little artistic licence was used, who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Someone please tell me I am wrong and it is from a British loco. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 What about a Class 21 bogie but it is the double springs that do not match??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 All kit parts if it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted April 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2017 Im not a bogie expert by any means, but I'd say the position of the springs suggest more of a wagon bogie to me, but I'm not convinced I've seen anything like that on UK stock - unless its a pre-Nationalisation design, and it looks a bit too modern to me for that. Could it be something US based? Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Looks to me like typical equalising-beam type US passenger car truck. I think that most earlier US freight cars had archbar (diamond frame) trucks, then Bettondorf trucks, neither of which this is, and it looks too light to be a loco truck. The Commonwealth bogie, used under some Mk1,was a licensed US design, very like this, but I don't think this is a model of one of those. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted April 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think having an air brake cylinder mounted outside the frame indicates some kind of motored bogie. The coil springs are the primary springing on the equaliser beam, there should also be some secondary leaf springing mounted centrally sticking out under the side frame to the bolster which seem to be missing. (Those separate vee bits in the kit picture?) With these added it would come fairly close to the Alco RS3 in post 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 try checking out the American Bud railcar which is both a passenger vehicle and powered, thus would have externally mounted brake cylinder and would not need the heavy frames of a loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Rich: Well you might not be an authority on the subject but thank you, Having taken another look I think you could be correct in it being a wagon bogie and yes US by the look. Nearholmer: Looked up the early US passenger car truck and US freight cars and yes there they are, pretty much the same. Guess it matters little to me now what they are to the exact degree as they are clearly US. But thank you for taking the time. Northroader: Alco RS3 was my first guess A The Commonwealth bogie would have been more useful Lol But then what does one expect for free Lol tamperman36: Yes good point kinda thought they were brake cylinders making me think loco bogie type of thing Thank you. Thank you to everyone for contributing. Thought someone on this site was bound to have some kind of idea. So I think we are unanimously agreed that this is US rather than something British and unworthy of a place in my scrap siding. Again Thank you to you all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Bogies of this general design were seen quite widely in Europe. The GWR used bogies of similar design, generally referred to as 'American' bogies; I suspect they were also found under other British companies' vehicles. In France, they were common also, first being fitted to the OCEM stock that appeared post WW1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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