MarcD Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I did that one a few years ago. Its currently sat one WC Boggs I will take a photo and post it later tonight. It featured on a YouTube video I did for the GOG's first vertual show last year. Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 This is my version. It plastic with brass strapping. Marc 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted April 30, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 Marc, I see you have done your model in the full Cambrian livery. Mine will very run down like the condition seen in the photograph of wagon No 356. I put the ends on and then I made a mess of the sides last night so I went to bed and had another look at it this morning. With fresh eyes it wasn't as bad as I first thought. So I was able to use the sides with a bit of trimming. At least the basic body is together now. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted April 30, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 The bottom of the W-irons is curved so I soldered four bits of nickel together and cut them out as one. I cleaned them up and separated them. When I seperated them I found only three. Where do these things go ? I drilled one and glued a couple of Masterclub. 8mm bolts in. The missing one may become a straight one from my spares box. 13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 Although I don't appear to have done alot it has taken several hours to put the V-irons on and get it up on it's wheels. I managed to get glue on the body sides at the end but hopefully it is where the corner plates go on so I will be able to hide the mistake. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 I have cobbled together the rather ramshackle brake gear to resemble the photograph. The left hand shoe looks to me to be upside down but I am hoping to build it warts and all. I have used one of my own casting which has been cut and shut as they say in the motor trade. 15 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted May 2, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2021 I have started to put the ironwork on the body and cut a few marks in the wood where it's had a hard life. The centre door plate to protect the door is slightly off centre in the photograph and the bottom of one corner plate is damaged. I will probably leave it for now and go and do a few miles on the bike. A few friends are going out this morning in Cheshire so there won't be to many hills. I don't always want to go but the alternatives will be worse in the long run. 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted May 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2021 Mike, what type of suspension will you be using on this wagon? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Some times it is difficult to make yourself get out, but you always feel better afterwoods John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 3, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Dave, the W-irons have a slot in rather than a hole and the wheels just sit at the top of the slot. I have in the past used a wire to push down the wheels but I found they work just as well using gravity. Not wanting to do extra work I leave them out now unless I get a bad riding wagon. I have done some more work today on the detailing of the ironwork and other bits. We did a small ride out into Cheshire yesterday doing about 40 plus miles with a few small hills. Several of the lads like to explore small off roads lanes and tracks which didn't go down well with one of the ladies who clearly wasn't impressed and turned the air quiet blue. I am struggling with fitness with not going out much last year but if I can keep at it I will hopefully build up a bit more stamina. 21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Keep at it mate 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 That's another rather nice bit of modelling - always a pleasure to see. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 4, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) I have started to do the small details now including drilling the ironwork for the coach bolts. I have also put the washers on before I sand them flatter because they are made from 10 thou plastic which is to thick. I will leave them to go hard before I do that and then drill for the coach bolts. They tend to disappear when sanded or drilled if they are not hard. I have also moved the brake shoes closer to the wheels and cut the ends of the buffers for the straps that prevent the wood splitting. I have made them slightly different to show this old wagon has had a hard life. There won't be a lot more done today or tomorrow because of the grandsons are coming. Edited May 4, 2021 by airnimal 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted May 5, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) After a day with our grandsons life gets back to less frenetic pace. I have started to rub the washers I glued on yesterday to a more reasonable thickness before drilling out to accept . 7mm rivets or coach bolts. This is going to be a long process, so I will only do a few at a time. Edited May 5, 2021 by airnimal 15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2021 I have managed to do most of the coach bolts on one side. A couple of the washers disappeared when I was reducing the thickness so I have had to reapply them. I have both ends and the other side to do as well as all the interior details before I get to the paintwork stage. 17 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 8, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) I have drilled all the holes on the ends for the coach bolts / hex nuts. Looking at the photograph show that one end pillar has been replaced because the bolt pattern are different and in different places. I suppose with a wagon that is probably 40 / 50 years old it will have been rebuilt many times. There is still plenty to do including the coupling plates and one complete side's ironwork. I think we have more or less discounted moving house for a couple of years if at all. Coming up to the a big birthday has brought my wife and children a desire to buy gifts to celebrate. I find it hard to accept any expensive gifts, I much rather they spent it on themselves or the grandchildren. They have suggested paying for someone to build the baseboards to go in the workshop to get me going on a layout. I'm not sure I'm ready to start a full blown layout but I wouldn't mind a couple of boards to make a diorama. So for the last couple of days we have been trying to clear some space in my workshop which will also involve clearing out the garden shed of rubbish to store some of those things that we should really just dump but find it hard to let go. Edited May 8, 2021 by airnimal 14 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Mike, a diorama is an excellent idea, if you feel a full layout isn’t achievable. It only needs to be 3’ to 4’ long and can go anywhere. Compact, but big enough to be able to show your lovely work in a realistic setting. I’m a big fan of them! Hope the clear out goes well - it’s hard chucking stuff away but sometimes I think a) if I haven’t used it for a couple of years am I likely to in the future and b) life is too short!! 7 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I agree. Several times I have started large ambitious layouts and never finished them. My current project of a 6’ long simple shunting layout has come together much more quickly, been more enjoyable, and is nearly finished after just a few months. A small layout or diorama also allows more detail to be incorporated in a reasonable timescale. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted May 10, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2021 I have cut the brake handle and rack out of 12 thou nickel. I was going to use an Ambis rack until I looked at the photograph and noticed the the rack only had 5 peg holes in it. The Ambis ones have many more holes in them so one of them would not look like the prototype wagon. It was only after when taking the photograph that I noticed the middle hole was out of line, so I will have to make a replacement. Went out again on my bike yesterday which felt a little easier than last week so I must keep at it. 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 10, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 Although I have made the brake rack to the length on the photograph it looked to long. When I made the replacement I reduced the length by 1mm and managed to drill the peg holes in the middle of the rack. Both these little things are an improvement in my eyes. 15 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 I am hoping to add the internal nuts today and then this lime wagon is ready for painting. I have added the coupling plates from CPL with hooks from Slaters given to me by Dog Star of this parish. I have used the pair with a vertical slot rather one of each which is what I think was intended. I dont know for certain that is the intended method of soldering a pair together but when I have done this in the past I wasn't very impressed with the odd half etch on each piece. After soldiering together I have shaped the hook into a more accessible profile. Taking photographs show up all the imperfections and omissions Including a missing a coach bolt on the non brake side and the bolts on the brackets near the dumb buffers not square. As the wagon was built in 1864 I can live with a few imperfections. The isn't much lettering on the photograph I'm working from although there is a trace of numbers on the end on the second plank up above the coupling hook. I will paint and weather it and on the non brake side I will I hope do a very faded Cam Rly with the Prince of Wales plume on the door. Looking at the weather outside, I don't think I will will be painting any time soon. 12 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, airnimal said: internal nuts Cold weather, perhaps? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Clough please! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted May 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 Very appropriate given I have prostate cancer ! One couldn't make it up. The weather held good for a short while so I took the opportunity to get the rattle cans out and give the wagon a blast of grey primer. This has shown up a missed coach bolt and a few small faults but nothing to get excited about. I am pleased how it has turned out and I am looking forward to finishing the rest of the wagon. Looking at the photograph I can't decide if the ironwork has been painted Black as other Cambrian wagons were because the paintwork is very faded. I won't be able to do a great deal more for a couple of days because we have the little ones tomorrow as usual. 15 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, airnimal said: prostate cancer I have been told that all men would eventually get this, if nothing else got them first. Mind you, we might have to live to be 150 to prove it. Still, something always gets you in (or near to) the end... 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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