RMweb Premium Kris Posted October 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2021 Rather nice boat in Falmouth at the moment. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 You don't carry little dutch boys for damage like that? Ya, devcon sounds about right- we used something similar on the tanker when we rubbed through the shell plating. Done from the outside via our divers, then inside we pored in cement because it was near the bottom of the bilge, on the bottom flat plates. I'm assuming the stiffener is welded to the tank, in which case the HAZ material is different composition than the rest of the plating, and probably somewhat porous (it's a weld...), so, through the easiest way it goes. James 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, peach james said: You don't carry little dutch boys for damage like that? Ya, devcon sounds about right- we used something similar on the tanker when we rubbed through the shell plating. Done from the outside via our divers, then inside we pored in cement because it was near the bottom of the bilge, on the bottom flat plates. I'm assuming the stiffener is welded to the tank, in which case the HAZ material is different composition than the rest of the plating, and probably somewhat porous (it's a weld...), so, through the easiest way it goes. James Elf an' Safetee stopped us doing that... :p Yes, the knee is all welded up. As I said, the rest of the hull looks pretty good. The Devcon will allow us to keep trading until the next docking period - unless an opportunity presents itself before then. Cement boxes - I've been on ships where we used to stock up on sand & cement pretty much every port... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Kris said: Rather nice boat in Falmouth at the moment. That's a matter of opinion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Kris said: Rather nice boat in Falmouth at the moment. Yuck! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 29/10/2021 at 16:01, Kris said: Rather nice boat in Falmouth at the moment. Shame about the Gin Palace monstrosity in the background, but, yes, Suenos is a very nice boat. It was built by DazCats, a very nice boatbuilding firm in https://www.multihullcentre.com/dazcat-catamaran-range/ They've won their class in the Round Britain, RORC and MOCRA races so many times I've lost count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Shame about the Gin Palace monstrosity in the background, but, yes, Suenos is a very nice boat. It was built by DazCats, a very nice boatbuilding firm in https://www.multihullcentre.com/dazcat-catamaran-range/ They've won their class in the Round Britain, RORC and MOCRA races so many times I've lost count. The only one that appeals to me is the cutter-rigged ketch on the left. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just departing Antwerp here. We had this one moored nearby - can't say I'm a fan of the colour scheme... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2021 But it is green! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted October 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 hours ago, MarkC said: Just departing Antwerp here. We had this one moored nearby - can't say I'm a fan of the colour scheme... Back 'in my day' all the Evergreen boats had all-over green which looked hideous, I see more recently they relented and painted the accommodation white. That gas-wagon looks to have reversed the trend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Seen this elsewhere - another shot of the todger - sorry, the bulbous bow - of the Ever Given after her attempt to dredge a new channel in the Marlboro Canal... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I spent last week on the Isle of Man, sailing from Liverpool on 'Manannan', a former US Navy fastcraft now part of the Isle of Man Steam Packet fleet. Here's a view of her approaching Liverpool last Monday evening, taken from the Mersey Ferry 'Royal Iris': My outbound voyage was smooth, but storms blew up in the week and saw several sailings cancelled. Fortunately I got home on Sunday evening after that sailing was reinstated, but it was a very rough crossing with waves crashing into the underbelly of the ship. About half-way across one of the trim tab control linkages snapped, which didn't help! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: I spent last week on the Isle of Man, sailing from Liverpool on 'Manannan', a former US Navy fastcraft now part of the Isle of Man Steam Packet fleet. Here's a view of her approaching Liverpool last Monday evening, taken from the Mersey Ferry 'Royal Iris': My outbound voyage was smooth, but storms blew up in the week and saw several sailings cancelled. Fortunately I got home on Sunday evening after that sailing was reinstated, but it was a very rough crossing with waves crashing into the underbelly of the ship. About half-way across one of the trim tab control linkages snapped, which didn't help! I avoid that thing like the plague. It has an odd motion in a sea, which makes folk very ill, got me feeling unwell a couple of times. If we really do have to use it, there are a couple of seats upstairs that are close to midships....helps! It is very broad in the beam for its length which I have always thought contributes to her motion. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: I avoid that thing like the plague. It has an odd motion in a sea, which makes folk very ill, got me feeling unwell a couple of times. If we really do have to use it, there are a couple of seats upstairs that are close to midships....helps! It is very broad in the beam for its length which I have always thought contributes to her motion. Sounds like the Seacat, aka 'The Vomit Comet', which used to run from Folkestone to Boulogne. I worked at Eurotunnel alongside a lot of ex-Hoverspeed crew, who hated the beast. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I found a seat on the port side amidships, where I could also see through the doorway and the front saloon to the bow. That meant I could see the horizon to the side and ahead, and my brain could make sense of the pitching and rolling motions. I don't normally suffer badly from seasickness and I was fine, but many other folk were in trouble. The alarming bits were the random great crashes from underneath, and some serious vibration when the trim tab control failed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: Sounds like the Seacat, aka 'The Vomit Comet', which used to run from Folkestone to Boulogne. I worked at Eurotunnel alongside a lot of ex-Hoverspeed crew, who hated the beast. We've had a few over the years, and all have attracted that name! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Slightly off-topic but I have also flown in a Comet (well, a Nimrod MR2) and that definitely deserved the 'Vomit Comet' name. The seats face backwards or sideways, there are very few windows, and when the plane was dropping patterns of sonobuoys they really threw it around, only a few hundred feet above the sea. And as for the vat of stewed tea that formed the only source of refreshment, well the less said the better! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 hours ago, MarkC said: Seen this elsewhere - another shot of the todger - sorry, the bulbous bow - of the Ever Given after her attempt to dredge a new channel in the Marlboro Canal... Incredible how big it is compared to the groups of people in attendance. I know Neil has show pictures of how big the engines of some of the ships he’s been working on. Not being a nautical type, has some of the red plating been removed from the bulbous bow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Erichill16 said: Incredible how big it is compared to the groups of people in attendance. I know Neil has show pictures of how big the engines of some of the ships he’s been working on. Not being a nautical type, has some of the red plating been removed from the bulbous bow? The red is the antifouling paint system, which has been rubbed away by the sand/mud when she ran aground. This will have been taken as soon as she "went dry" in the dock, and before scaffolding was put up for access. Yes, she is HUGE. Having people 'in shot' certainly shows the size of her - a behemoth of the seas... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, MarkC said: The red is the antifouling paint system, which has been rubbed away by the sand/mud when she ran aground. This will have been taken as soon as she "went dry" in the dock, and before scaffolding was put up for access. Yes, she is HUGE. Having people 'in shot' certainly shows the size of her - a behemoth of the seas... Thanks. It looks like a layer for steel, painted with the anti fouling paint has been removed and peeled back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Erichill16 said: Thanks. It looks like a layer for steel, painted with the anti fouling paint has been removed and peeled back. Without a good shot from the side, to me it looks like the bulbous bow structure has been forced back, with the keel girder being bent. The forces involved will have been very high - a ship that size, even travelling at only 7 or 8 knots, has an awful lot of momentum, and that energy had to go somewhere... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarkC said: Without a good shot from the side, to me it looks like the bulbous bow structure has been forced back, with the keel girder being bent. The forces involved will have been very high - a ship that size, even travelling at only 7 or 8 knots, has an awful lot of momentum, and that energy had to go somewhere... 'Just nip down the duct keel and have a look....' LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, New Haven Neil said: 'Just nip down the duct keel and have a look....' LOL. Indeed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: the Mersey Ferry 'Royal Iris' There's a name from the past, although probably a newer ship than the one I remember seeing in an old Ian Allan book. Pictures please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 17 hours ago, New Haven Neil said: I avoid that thing like the plague. It has an odd motion in a sea, which makes folk very ill, got me feeling unwell a couple of times. If we really do have to use it, there are a couple of seats upstairs that are close to midships....helps! It is very broad in the beam for its length which I have always thought contributes to her motion. FWIW, I actually hate taking passage on conventional ships that are fitted with stabilisers. To me it's an unnatural sensation, as I'm expecting the roll to continue a few more degrees, but of course it doesn't... These fast cats are fine in calm conditions, but, let's face it, they're never going to ride well in any sort of seaway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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