kirtleypete Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 This model of an SNCF diesel shunter is on sale, a repainting of the 0 gauge Lenz DB model. Did the SNCF have such engines or is it just someone's imagination at work? The number reads SNCF DB 8. I'm tempted to buy it, but not if the real thing never existed!Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) It's a German V36 so would have seen service in France during the war, only know as I was after a power unit out of one a few years ago to fit a NBL shunter. Normally carries a black livery but some were in green. they saw service in Italy, Belgium, Austria, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, France, Sweden and Yugoslavia. Edited August 10, 2017 by 25901 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 It is, but the question is did the SNCF have some as well. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Yes, you might have to hit translation button https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_50100 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Quite a small class, with 30% surviving as preserved examples. They lasted quite late as well; 1971 to '73. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Perfect! Thanks chaps, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Very nice coarse-scale version available in tin from ETS, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The class has been mentioned here before. I remember finding a list of disposals into industry and export - IIRC a couple went to Gabon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 The Y 50100 ran in the Nord region until 1970's. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 Brilliant! Would the gereen and yellow livery be in use in 1955 Jackie? I've ordered the model from la Caverne du Rail but they have not answered my e-mail. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 No this scheme is more modern. Epoque III is more olive green without yellow lines and red pilots. Like here: http://lacavernedurail.com/030-db-8-sncf/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 As you can see above, the tin one is plain green, but with the 50100 series number. Is this correct, or should it have the earlier number? I might have accidentally ordered one, to haul the train of 1950s French Hornby bogie wagons that I accidentally collected! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 That's a shame, the yellow and green looks nicer. Oh well. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 This German site has a loco-by-loco history summary (click on the SNCF running number). http://www.rangierdiesel.de/index.php?nav=1410794&lang=1 From what I can work out, here and elsewhere, they were renumbered into the y50100 series in 1961, and the livery change, to a nicer green, with yellow bits, occurred from 1962. So, the tin one has a narrow time band, from renumbering until repainting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's too late for me, it will have to plain green. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know the 030DB was repainted and modified into Y 50100 in 1962 (époque III to époque IV changes). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I don't think the tin model (époque III green) has realistic lettering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I've found this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Jack Do you mean the form of lettering, or the fact that it has number Y50101? According to the details on the German site, it was renumbered 10.1961, which I think was before the new livery was introduced, but I've yet to find a photo of one in old paint, with new number. Whatever the case, it is a slight pity that the model isn't in the later livery, with yellow, because I can well remember locos in that scheme. Whether I saw one of these, I know not, but I certainly saw many shunting engines at the ports and around Compiegne and Amiens. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Kevin I don't know. For me it's more realistic to see a green loco with 030 DB lettering and a green with yellow stripes with Y 50101. Of course the form of the lettering isn't exact and the size is too big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I've found this Capture d’écran 2017-08-17 à 22.41.23.png I wonder if the one at Mailly-le-Camp is still around? I pass that granary at least once a year, as it's next to the A26 between Chalons en Champagne and Troyes. It's got quite a large track layout, as it also provides run-round facilities for the eponymous, and adjacent, camp. This link shows the site:- https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/10230+Mailly-le-Camp,+France/@48.6744067,4.1775101,591m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47e9549997c84b47:0x40a5fb99a3f41c0!8m2!3d48.671701!4d4.195654 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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