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I grew up believing that the sun shone directly through Box tunnel at dawn on Brunel's birthday which I'm sure even the MiM know is 9th April.

 

At some stage I recall hearing it was an urban myth and so decided to use one of the online tools like Suncalc.

 

For 2018 it looks to me like it shines directly through at dawn on 04April so it looks to me to be substantially but not 100pct true?

 

Has anyone else checked this?
 

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I grew up believing that the sun shone directly through Box tunnel at dawn on Brunel's birthday which I'm sure even the MiM know is 9th April.

 

At some stage I recall hearing it was an urban myth and so decided to use one of the online tools like Suncalc.

 

For 2018 it looks to me like it shines directly through at dawn on 04April so it looks to me to be substantially but not 100pct true?

 

Has anyone else checked this?

 

 

Network Rail did a check, and took a photo, during the blockade of the tunnel a couple of years ago, but I'm not sure whether it was actually Brunels birthday.

 

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The Earth's axis has two significant motions.

 

Precession makes the axis move slowly in a circle on the sky. The radius of the circle is the Earth's axial tilt, ~23 degrees and the axis goes once round the precessional circle in about 26,000 years.

 

Nutation adds a smaller wobble on the precessional path with a period of 18.6 years.

 

Without working out the numbers, I would guess that the precessional shift over a couple of hundred years is negligible, but the nutation changes the day of alignment at Box. 

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The conclusion this year, when they looked, was that it doesn't, although you have to read hard to find it and ignore the headline! 

 

e.g.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/10/isambard-kingdom-brunel-birthday-box-tunnel-bath-sun

 

To repeat what I said elsewhere on the forum, its worth noting that if you have a straight tunnel on a gradient so that it points above the horizon, and its aimed vaguely south of east or vaguely south of west, then its very unlikely that the sun won't shine straight through on one day or another. The sun crosses an awful lot of sky in the course of a year!

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There are a lot of variables to take into account when making an observation of this sort, and not actually seeing the tiny dot of light that would be visible from the western portal does not mean that there is no alignment allowing it on Brunel's birthday; it is known to be pretty close!  The air in this very long tunnel would have to be completely clear of fumes, mist, or atmospheric pollution, and the pin prick of light would be tiny.  

 

I was once on the first (05.20 IIRC) Cardiff-Bristol dmu in the 70s, sitting in the cab with the driver partaking of a can of tea, when, following a weekend possession in Severn Tunnel which we were the first up train through after, and just having begun the climb from the bottom, he pointed out a very small dot of light ahead and said it was the English portal, and that in 20 odd year on the job he'd never seen it before.  I had my doubts, but it very slowly got bigger and eventually became large enough to let the train out of the tunnel; he was right!  This was not a direct sunrise alignment, but a very bright eastern morning sky.  Seen from the bottom, the tiny dot of light was very hard to see from 2 and half miles away, a similar distance to Box, and I probably would not have noticed it until the last mile or so.

 

Brunel's father Marc was known to be fascinated by the French discoveries that followed Napoleon's occupation of Egypt, and this sort of pyramid trickery sounds very much like the sort of stunt Ismbard might have attempted; I am inclined (at 1 in 100 in a dead straight line) to believe it!

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... the pin prick of light would be tiny.  

 

The tunnel is 2350m long. Assuming that it's 10m wide, one portal subtends 0.24 degrees when seen from the other. That's half the angular diameter of the sun (or the full moon, which is the same size). It's not vast, but I wouldn't call it tiny.

 

It follows that the image of the sun will fill the far portal if one looks through the tunnel at the right moment.

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And I always thought the universe revolved around Swindon, centre of God's Wonderful Railway !!!

 

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GOD was asked to change his name as he was tarnishing the image of the GWR by his fraudulent attempt to be associated with them.

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