Signalling and point rod placement help

[MarkK]

Hi,

 

Can anyone point me in the right direction with regards signal and point rod placement for the attached layout.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Mark

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Edited April 9, 2018 by MarkK

[Phil Bullock]

Hi Mark

 

A couple of key points - where are the platforms and what are the sidings bottom right used for?
 

Cheers

 

Phil

 

[MarkK]

Hi Phil

 

Two platforms are intended, (would of helped if I had shown them) - one right below the rectangle I marked as a station and one on the far side opposite the first platform - if that makes sense.  The buildings are not to scale, just to mark a rough position of where they will be situated.  The bottom left is intended to be a road bridge with a wooden staircase down to the far platform.  It is my intention that the line had been cut here and the train/s will terminate.

 

I am not certain what I will place on the far right hand side at the moment.  It may be a coal wharf or possibly and engine shed and coaling stage.

 

Hope that helps

 

Mark

[TheSignalEngineer]

A few things we need to know.

Area? Date? Where do lines left and right at the bottom go to? Is the line to the fiddle yard a branch line or a siding?

[MarkK]

Hi

 

The layout is based on, although not exactly, Willenhall Stafford Street.  It was operated by the Midland Railway from 1876 and later taken over by the LMS in 1923.  The LMS withdrew passanger services in 1931 but remained a busy goods yard until the end of steam.  The line originally ran from Walsall to Wolverhampton, although access to Walsall ended when the line was cut at Bentley to make way for the M6.  In my scenario I ended the line at the bridge beside the station.  The line to Wolverhampton remained open and in my scenario I made Willenhall Stafford Street a branchline.  The single line leaving the traverser would go to Wolverhampton via Wednesfield where it would have access to the West coast main line.

 

The site altered very little as it passed from LMS to BR hands and either period would be at home on the model.

 

 

 

The original track work has been somewhat simplified to accommodate space as I only had 8' x 2' to play with.  

[Phil Bullock]

CHeers Mark

 

Will passenger trains arrive with one engne and depart with another - or will a pilot loco shunt stock over - or auto perhaps?
 

All key to signalling!

 

Cheers

 

Phil

 

[MarkK]

Hi Phil

 

I was thinking of arriving with one engine and leaving with another, although there is a possibility of a pilot.  I very much doubt I will run an auto as there is little rtr examples available, unless I run ex GWR stock on the line.

[Phil Bullock]

OK so you need to be able to accommodate your passenger train - no more than two coaches presumably? - and two locos - small tank engines presumably, not much else would fit unless you are running single coach trains.

 

Next question - sorry - is the road immediately behind the signal box a passenger bay or a goods siding?

 

Phil

[MarkK]

Phil

 

The road immediately behind the signal box is indeed a goods siding. There was a cattle dock during LMS ownership. The passenger platforms will just about accommodate a small tank engine and two coaches.

Edited April 9, 2018 by MarkK

[MarkK]

With regard the attached, the two red spots represent signals.  

 

Would signals sited here be enough to protect the points for this set up?