Looking for NSE coach rosters

[ess1uk]

i've been hunting for my old spotting notes but ive mainly got just loco numbers.

i didn't take that much notice of coaches (shame)

some numbers i've scribbled down i cant even make any sense of, they may be unit numbers?

some numbers i've not underlined in my 1989 platform 5 book which is odd as i usually did it the same night after a day out so i wouldn't forget

 

also in my random notes

for Waterloo-Exeter coaches that were branded NSE in blue and grey I've got a list of the rakes present on 22 April 1987.

·         50016 5255, 5303, 5336, 6502, 17081, 17096, 5447, 5408, 5465

·         50010 5261, 5462, 5443, 17070, 17086, 6500, 5480, 5459, 5254

·         50041 3924, 3848, 4392, 13399, 35010, 5290, 3829, 95201, 93235

·         50047 5496, 5450, 5477, 17107, 17082, 6504, 5466, 5278, 5246

·         50050 5345, 5471, 5453, 6503, 17074, 17058, 5468, 5454, 5435

Coaches in Bold were in full NSE livery.

Coaches in Italics still carried Inter-City on blue and grey. All other coaches (except the Mk1 rake behind 50041) were in blue and grey with NSE flashes and small branding.

I think the Southern Mk1 stock received NSE branding (I really can't remember, nor can I find any photos) but i think most of them were reallocated from May 1987 anyway.

17086, 17082 and 5454 were three of the first coaches repainted with the numbers to the left and the logos to the right (the brakes had the logos in the centre where the brake end was to the right). Others like this were: 5265, 5303, 5381, 5448, 5462, 17069 and 17079.

 

[eastwestdivide]

 

40 minutes ago, bigP said:

Hi eastwestdivide,

 

Please do.  I at least would be interested in them, I'm sure a few other coachaholics would do too.

 

Cheers,

Paul

Apologies, my notes end in 1986, and even those weren't very good. Must have given up detailed coach recordings a year or so earlier. Never mind.

Edited April 30, 2019 by eastwestdivide

[bigP]

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[LU_fan]

bigP, thank you very much for the gallery link. I'm sure it will come in handy. As will the list that ess1uk provided. Only got to figure out what coach is what type, and I think the P5 books can help with that. Right...?

[ess1uk]

3 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

 

Apologies, my notes end in 1986, and even those weren't very good. Must have given up detailed coach recordings a year or so earlier. Never mind.

Still may be useful 

[keefer]

42 minutes ago, LU_fan said:

bigP, thank you very much for the gallery link. I'm sure it will come in handy. As will the list that ess1uk provided. Only got to figure out what coach is what type, and I think the P5 books can help with that. Right...?

Yes, the coach numbers in the P5 books go from low to high in sequence - so look up the number and there will be a heading giving the coach type followed by build details, brake type, seating totals etc.

[eastwestdivide]

1 hour ago, ess1uk said:

Still may be useful 

Well no notes, but some kind-of-useful photos, many cropped from wider shots:

 

1988, near Pangbourne, probably an Oxford-London service, a single blue-grey coach among the NSE, and mostly Mk2s as far as I can tell:

 

 

1988, near Pangbourne, possibly a scratch set, all Mk2s?

 

 

1988 Thatcham, on a Newbury-Padd service, one BG and a lot of Mk2s:

 

1988 near Hungerford, possibly the Paddington-Westbury commuter train, has two Mk2 FKs I think:

 

 

1986, Reading, 3 SK, BSK, FK, 3 SK (unless some are TSO). Probably a Padd-Oxford on that side (or maybe Newbury). The Network SouthEast logo on some of the blue/grey coaches:

 

 

1986 from the front seats of a DMU near Pangbourne/Goring-ish, probably an Oxford-Padd. Pretty much the same formation as the photo above:

[griffgriff]

11 hours ago, lyneux said:

 

True, it's not possible to work out numbers but it's easy to spot the coach type to work out a general pattern (especially if you slow it down as indicated). The video I linked shows at least 4 full rakes.

 

As a general pattern a mix of Mk1 and Mk2:

 

Three to four SO/SK + a couple of either BSK, BFK, FK, FO + another three to five SO/SK.

 

Guy

Fair comment.  I always thought the disparity of interest between freight and passenger vehicles (when considering rolling stock) was odd.  There is a massive amount of material relating to wagons but coaching stock information is very hard to find.  

 

Griff

[Flood]

12 hours ago, ess1uk said:

i've been hunting for my old spotting notes but ive mainly got just loco numbers.

i didn't take that much notice of coaches (shame)

some numbers i've scribbled down i cant even make any sense of, they may be unit numbers?

some numbers i've not underlined in my 1989 platform 5 book which is odd as i usually did it the same night after a day out so i wouldn't forget

 

also in my random notes

for Waterloo-Exeter coaches that were branded NSE in blue and grey I've got a list of the rakes present on 22 April 1987.

·         50016 5255, 5303, 5336, 6502, 17081, 17096, 5447, 5408, 5465

·         50010 5261, 5462, 5443, 17070, 17086, 6500, 5480, 5459, 5254

·         50041 3924, 3848, 4392, 13399, 35010, 5290, 3829, 95201, 93235

·         50047 5496, 5450, 5477, 17107, 17082, 6504, 5466, 5278, 5246

·         50050 5345, 5471, 5453, 6503, 17074, 17058, 5468, 5454, 5435

Coaches in Bold were in full NSE livery.

Coaches in Italics still carried Inter-City on blue and grey. All other coaches (except the Mk1 rake behind 50041) were in blue and grey with NSE flashes and small branding.

I think the Southern Mk1 stock received NSE branding (I really can't remember, nor can I find any photos) but i think most of them were reallocated from May 1987 anyway.

17086, 17082 and 5454 were three of the first coaches repainted with the numbers to the left and the logos to the right (the brakes had the logos in the centre where the brake end was to the right). Others like this were: 5265, 5303, 5381, 5448, 5462, 17069 and 17079.

 

Thanks for quoting my notes so I didn't have to search for them!

 

 

Edited April 30, 2019 by Flood

[ess1uk]

9 hours ago, Flood said:

Thanks for quoting my notes so I didn't have to search for them!

 

 

I couldn’t remember where I got that from !

thanks from clearing that up! 

My memory is not so good these days 

 

ive now added Flood to my notes as the source to save future embarrassment 

Edited May 1, 2019 by ess1uk