Phil R Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Can anyone confirm the identity of the leading coach in this photo please? https://www.flickr.com/photos/33106/8157234952/in/photolist-pe9wtB-oyKTrU-dZTDE9-bD45dF-jt3S8v-Cbj14E-2dpkkZ4-dqPXKW-mmTPWT-K2edUN-JZreuo-BricG6-oAuk4z-23ZJS1N-KPi4aP-4gU9eo-cUvYcA-mmTQ72-cUwdg3-cUwqLC-cUw8uy-cUwAQ7-cUwctQ-cUwCbC-b39QrX-218h49E-b39ZzD-b39Xi8-b39Zbr-b39SDF-b39XXv-b39UYt-b39VDi-2c2K5X6-K4fqhs-wUwJdP-Aivpq3-K8U7L9-kScfzv-PKgGZP-LCBEZW-96ycEG-b39SiT-b39TAZ-zJN1B9-b39SZv-b39U6g-b39Su6-b39RSx-SCu6Cu The photo is dated 27th June 1987 and is of the 1V67 1010 Scarborough - Paignton service. It looks like a Mk1 BFK but I thought they had all been withdrawn by this time. In addition, the Newcastle - Poole/Weymouth services in 1987/8 were usually a rake of around 6 Mk 2 aircon TSOs, with a Mk1 BG & RBR. The first class accommodation was also Mk 2 aircon. Can anyone confirm whether FOs or FKs were used and also whether the TSOs were Mk 2d, e or f? Many thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted June 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2019 In 1986 there were a few BFKs left, and as it is on Commonwealth bogies and without metal window frames as far as I can tell, it limits it to one of the following, 17013, 15, 18, 19, 21 or 22, spread between Willesden, Bounds Green, Old Oak and Craigentinny. HTH, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted June 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2019 I travelled on the Poole-Newcastle trains most days in this period. Rakes of Mk1 & early Mk2 stock did appear quite often as well as aircon Mk2. I can't comment on BFKs as I didn't travel 1st.! 'Peaks' [class 45] were the normal loco power. Dava 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Summer '87 allocations were as follows: 17003, 5, 21, 22, 24 at Inverness, used on the Aberdeen - Inverness services 17007 Old Oak Common 17013, 15, 18, 23 at Bounds Green, used on InterCity Charters 17019, 25 at Cardiff Most probably one of the Cardiff pair. I've just found the following in my notes: 10.10 Scarborough - Paignton, 18.55 Paignton - Newton Abbot, 19.23 Newton Abbot - Old Oak Common (BSK, 3 TSO, 2 CK, 3 TSO, BSK - allocated Old Oak Common). The BFK would seem to be a BSK replacement. This rake very possibly worked the 19.05 Paddington - Plymouth FO then the 00.05 Plymouth - York SO. The Poole - Newcastle services were worked by Longsight coaching stock at that time formed BG, FK, RMB, 7 TSO. Mk2d FK, the TSOs could be either Mk2d, 2e or 2f as they had an allocation of all three but for cross-country workings Mk2d and Mk2e were probably more likely. This photo from Flickr shows the 17.52 Poole - Liverpool on 30 June 1987 with a right mixture of stock including an RBR insead of an RMB: The booked coaching stock workings were: Day 1. 07.45 Newc - Poole, 17.32 Poole - Liv Day 2. 08.08 Man - Poole, 14.58 Poole - Liv Day 3. 09.20 Liv - BNS, 11.39 BNS - Liv, 14.10 Liv - Poole Day 4. 10.38 Poole - Newc Edited June 11, 2019 by Flood 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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