wainwright1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Can't see a separate blog for this. Does anyone know if the Port of London Authority had any of these ? All the best Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrTea Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2022 Hi Ray, I’d imagine @Islesy would know? Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2022 I don't think they did. Port of London diesels were Yorkshire Engine 0-6-0s. A quick search of the net has not thrown up any Sentinels owned by the PLA. The Hornby one might be a flight of fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, Moxy said: The Hornby one might be a flight of fancy Hornby's release is of the PBA, entirely different, as it's the Port of Bristol Authority Based on the preserved example at the East Somerset Railway, which is where the survey visit took place... 123275044_PBA39atEastSomersetRailway.png 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Islesy said: Hornby's release is of the PBA, entirely different, as it's the Port of Bristol Authority Based on the preserved example at the East Somerset Railway, which is where the survey visit took place... 123275044_PBA39atEastSomersetRailway.png 0 B · 2 downloads some inf here too -- https://bristolharbourrailway.co.uk/industrial-railways-of-bristol/avonmouth-docks/sentinel-pba-39/ cheers, Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Islesy said: Hornby's release is of the PBA, entirely different, as it's the Port of Bristol Authority Based on the preserved example at the East Somerset Railway, which is where the survey visit took place... 123275044_PBA39atEastSomersetRailway.png 0 B · 6 downloads Thank you for the clarification, happy to stand corrected. My interest is in the Manchester Ship Canal one. With the OP's request about the PLA, I had mis-remembered the Hornby one was PBA. Apologies for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 PBA arrived, not impressed with the location of the 6 pin socket 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 looks good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: PBA arrived, not impressed with the location of the 6 pin socket Is this out already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, russ p said: Is this out already? in stock on the Hornby website https://uk.Hornby.com/products/port-bristol-authority-sentinel-0-6-0-39-era-5-r30083 and elsewhere by the looks of various retailer web-sites. cheers, Keith Edited February 10, 2022 by tractionman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Body off reveals a weighted area to part of the cab and rear bonnet while the 6 pin socket is a normal overly complicated loose cabled affair, why cannot Hornby follow other makers neatness. It does however have the benefit of making it simple to hard wire a decoder. A positive compared to the 4 wheel Sentinels is the ready accessibility for removal of the capacitor if desired. Edited February 10, 2022 by Butler Henderson 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I am working on mine at this moment. I agree about the dcc socket. It says it need a 6pin with a plug at the end of a lead, that is the Hornby R7150 https://uk.Hornby.com/products/standard-6-pin-decoder-r7150 but if you carefully clip off the suppression capacitor it is just possible to mount the chip on top of the motor with the socket stretching up to meet it. Clunky... Highly tempted to hard wire a decoder. My other struggle has been with the pickups as the seem a little "loose". They are phosphor bronze strips branching of the pickup plate and the are a bit "waving in the wind" . I'm concerned they will drop and catch the track at some point. But I'm pleased to have one. Now who does PBA decals so I can change the running number? Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Zimo do a cabled 6 pin for £20 if someone wants a decoder with functionality at a cheaper price beyond the highly limited Hornby offering; the ZM617F, only place with stock currently seems to be AGR https://agrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk/zimo-uk-brand/zimo-mx617f-dcc-decoder-6pin-on-wire and they charge £5 for postage (and a £1 more on ebay). Putting the body back on the chassis with the dangly 6 pin arrangement last night was enough of almost a rubix cube that having an equally dangling decoder was very off putting so definately going down the hardwire route. How much better it would have been with a Next 18 socket but can you imagine a Hornby Next 18 decoder I have a small, now extinct, CTElectronik decoder spare which will be wired direct to the motor. Had the baseplate off to see how the pick up wires were connected but it transpired they terminate in plungers under the motor. Did loosen the motor to investigate further but that appears to slot into the gearbox and I was wary of something slipping or it not going back togther right so the motor fastened firmly in place and a dc supply applied to the now wireless motor contatcts to check everything was okay. Edited February 12, 2022 by Butler Henderson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Yes, yes, all very interesting, but can it shunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mark Dickerson said: Yes, yes, all very interesting, but can it shunt? Well given on a pure regulated DC supply it started moving at just under 2v I would have thought there would be no problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 That's encouraging., thanks. I'm assuming it's the same motor as the 0-4-0/4wD (never looked); it may be the luck of the draw but the coupled version runs better than the original. I'd've loved a flywheel but the relatively-generous cab presumably made this less of an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I’m planning a few modifications to model the PBA version as it was on entering preservation. Does anyone know a source of OO non-working cab roof warning beacons? If not, it looks like one of my HO switchers will have to donate their beacon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Just been billed for my pre ordered NCB Stanton Sentinel, by Kernow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9001 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Remember these working at Dorman Long on Teesside, would love to do a DL version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Those who have Maurice Dart's colour album 'Cornish China Clay Trains in Colour' on their bookshelves will know this already, but while ECC's 4wDH P403D 'Denise' was away for air-braking to work with the new CDAs in 1987, an 0-6-0 version stepped in at Rocks Dryers. It was unnumbered, in darkish blue with twin mid-blue stripes, and although it was only employed for a few weeks until 'Denise' returned, 'modeller's licence' may suggest that it was so successful that ECC decided to keep it on....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 First install pic. Body fits but I have done better. More pics this evening. Luke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Finished Side Top Pick-up issues... Luke Edited February 14, 2022 by luke_stevens Image correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Those pick ups are mangaled, the ones on mine are all flat and straight. Suggest take the base plate off to fix them, none should be almost level with the base plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Anybody had a look at the possibilities of EM/P4 conversion on these yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Those pick ups are mangaled, the ones on mine are all flat and straight. Suggest take the base plate off to fix them, none should be almost level with the base plate They were flat and straight when I got the loco, but when running the loco they would occasionally get caught on the back of the wheels and bent out of shape. What is in the photo IS the straightened version! The pick up material is very (too?) thin and the drag from the wheel back produces more torque on the piece that connects the pickup to the main plate is just too great. I'm thinking about using a spare piece of phosphor brass to beef-up the the vertical piese that keeps twisting. Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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