hodgkinr Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Hi guys A bit of advice please. I have a 00 gauge at the moment and i would like to incorporate a bit of narrow gauge at my harbor. I'm currently using Lenz DCC and was wondering if there was any track available to allow me to incorporate a simple turnout into the standard gauge. I have found a picture of what I mean . Thanks Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 You can buy dual gauge track and turnouts from Tillig. The 009 Society periodically get some in stock for its second hand sales but it tends to go rather quickly. https://009society.com/news/shop/?v=79cba1185463 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkinr Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 Ok thanks for that. The tillig track looks very interesting but will a small 009 actually run across the frog isolator ok? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 DCCConcepts also sell tillig oo/oo9 track https://www.dccconcepts.com/product-category/track-and-track-making-parts/tillig-elite-track-and-pointwork/tillig-hoe-and-hohoe-dual-gauge-track-and-pointwork/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 It gets complicated where the narrow gauge changes sides and changes common rail, with DCC the track layout needs to be arranged to make sure the common rail is on the right side, with DC common return you can work round it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 There is no common in DCC and all you need to do is keep the right on the right and the left on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFL Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 One problem with the dual gauge Tillig track is the price, although other people have mentioned where to get it in the UK it is readily available in the EU - but still at a price to make you wince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkinr Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Yep thanks for reminding me. I have had a look at the Tillig products and my plan was to use a 85192 LH turnout. My concern was whether a small 0-4-0 would get across the frog insulator. I'm hoping that I would be able to get a stay alive capacitor but it may be pretty tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, DCB said: ... with DCC the track layout needs to be arranged to make sure the common rail is on the right side... Why? The rail that is common to both gauges could be on either side provided you wire the 00 and 009 sections using the same convention. What it does mean is that the two rails that are only used by one gauge need to be connected to the same side of your bus - ie they are both black or both red. The rail that is common to both gauges would then be connected to the other bus wire. I agree that there is an issue if the rail that is common between gauges switches side, but that could be handled by an auto reversing module. 4 hours ago, hodgkinr said: My concern was whether a small 0-4-0 would get across the frog insulator. I don't have any experience, but since they are built for H0 / H0e, I can't see why 00 / 009 would be any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkinr Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 well there is only one way to find out. I'm off to order some bits! (Suck it and see) Thanks for your comments guys. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Won't be an issue as you are just using the same controller - you will be surprised how easy it is What locos are you planning to use on it, 0-6-0 would be better I think as they are really designed for H0e which tend to have longer wheelbase than 009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkinr Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hi Iain I was planning on using a Kato 11-109 motorised chassis but I have not made my mind up on what I am going to stick on top yet. I also have a Heljan L&B I could play with. It's not really in keeping with my plans for the layout, but it would be nice to see it running on track. I also have on order the new Bachman Alice class. Regards Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 An 11-109 will definitely span the frog, as will the L&B - will need to wait ou, on Alice. What will help with the 109 is some weight in whatever you stick on top, but not too much otherwise it won't move BTW - putting a decoder in the new 109 is a pain in the rectum, can be done but a pain - MX617 is the one to go for and check Tramfabriek for settings to use with coreless motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, WIMorrison said: There is no common in DCC and all you need to do is keep the right on the right and the left on the left I completely agree with what WiMorrison said . for those who work better with drawings the Grey crossings (frogs) need to be insulated from the rest of the track work & could be controlled by a frogjuicer the Red crossing can be all metal as it is all the some phase (DCC for polarity) I have several points like the one shown in the first post When i built them i didn't realise there was a prototype for my points Thanks for showing that point John Edited February 18, 2022 by John ks mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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