GERDecapod Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Hello everybody, I'd like to enquire if anyone knows of any non-bogie corridor coaches such as 4 and 6-wheelers. I'm also curious if any such coaches also had gangways. Thank you for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) LMS stove R vans were 6 wheel and had british standard gangways. Not sure if there were any non bogie vehicles with pullman gangways The last non bogie vehicle with a gangway was the optical vehicle in the structure gauging train and this had BS gangways Edited July 18, 2022 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Didn't the German 6-wheelers have gangways? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Both DB and SNCF had fleets of 'modernised' pre-war 4 and 6 wheel coaches, whereby metal bodies were put on pre-war underframes to replace wooden bodies. Both types had central doors and internal gangways/ semi-corridors. In Germany they were known as Umbauwagen dreiachsig (to distinguish from bogie Umbauwagen). The SNCF examples didn't really have a name other than 'trois pattes' (literally 3 paws - ie 6 wheeler), but trois pattes also applied to any 3-axle vehicle. The SNCF ones were however sometimes known as 'Bruhat' because they were the 3 axle version of the more famous bogie 'bruhat' modernised coaches. Edited July 18, 2022 by Gordonwis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 DB built several thousand of them in the 1950s on the frames of old Landerbahn coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2022 PKP had 4-wheel vestibuled coaches, with doors in the ends to access adjacent vehicles - not covered gangways as such though. see http://skansenchabowka.pl/tabor/wagon-osobowy-nr-9221-serii-bi/ as an example - this one has two open saloons, accessed from enclosed end vestibules. Others had open platforms either end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2022 DR in East Germany had 4- and 6-wheel Rekowagen — similar in principle but different in appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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