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[pendlerail]

 

 

This is the current plan for my next project, I intend a double track Electrified main line, the bottom of the screen is a station with 3 platforms in use, the top line is access to the Depot and possible runround for platform 3, the line bottom right goes to my work bench, and the single line top left is a small station " town Branch", 00 gauge with a branch leaving to the fiddle yard,

Any input or critique is welcome, the blacklines are board edges/ joins

Phil

Edited August 26, 2022 by pendlerail
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[H2O]

39 minutes ago, pendlerail said:

 

 

This is the current plan for my next project, I intend a double track Electrified main line, the bottom of the screen is a station with 3 platforms in use, the top line is access to the Depot and possible runround for platform 3, the line bottom right goes to my work bench, and the single line top left is a small station " town Branch", 00 gauge with a branch leaving to the fiddle yard,

Any input or critique is welcome, the blacklines are board edges/ joins

Phil

What era? As no turntable I'm guessing post 1970?  Also I'm thinking each square on the plan is 6" (150mm).

 

The inner line at the lower board goes to the storage area looking like double track, but the junction to the station looks odd if that is so.

 

To give flexibility I'm not sure if connecting the top left siding in the 'yard' to the inner single curve will help routing trains into platform 3 from the branch rather than take one of the main running lines of the double track. It will also allow 3 circulating trains uf that is your thing.

[pendlerail]

Sorry based late 80s-early 90s, the idea is not to run branch trains through but to leave options open If I want to,

Yes 6" squares,  peco code 75 track

 

[DCB]

It looks like a big fiddle yard, where does the scenic bit start and end? And the Platforms, is my doodle correct?    The hidden loops are right on the limit 7 roads in 12"   Streamilne gives you 6 roads per 7"   You are coming down to 44mm spacing, which is pretty close to scale, I do it but most folks won't like it and re railing derailed stock becomes challenging. Some of your trackwork just won't work  (red bit) .   Personally I would re do it with clear definition between scenic and non scenic areas.  Non scenic I would pick a curve radius and stick to it instead of having concentric tracks. that can give a few more inches or a change in point configuration.

[RobinofLoxley]

Are you operating from the cetral area? Its only 2' across, you must be skinny. Or is it just for hand of god movements.

 

Presumaby you have worked out that the  'open' side sidings are long enough for your stock. I know some of them can be easily increased.

 

There are going to be some fairly ugly platform gaps but I suppose you have found the only remaining space where a station can be placed.

 

There are a few dodgy spots in the FY but this is a consequence of Anyrail, bending flexitrack freehand, and it should be alright when laid. The concept seems good. I bet there will be a few tweaks done!

 

One point - a train arriving at the inner platform, which is presumably going out of service to the MPD some of the time, how does it get there? At present the shortest route is reversing out onto the mainline. 🤔 Would be possible to split the inner loop on the RHS (per DCB) ?

[pendlerail]

17 hours ago, DCB said:

It looks like a big fiddle yard, where does the scenic bit start and end? And the Platforms, is my doodle correct?    The hidden loops are right on the limit 7 roads in 12"   Streamilne gives you 6 roads per 7"   You are coming down to 44mm spacing, which is pretty close to scale, I do it but most folks won't like it and re railing derailed stock becomes challenging. Some of your trackwork just won't work  (red bit) .   Personally I would re do it with clear definition between scenic and non scenic areas.  Non scenic I would pick a curve radius and stick to it instead of having concentric tracks. that can give a few more inches or a change in point configuration.

That is right for platforms,  yes that is the best given space I have altered the red bit since, I do want space for most of my stock in fiddle yard main lines at right disappear just after junctions, the branch to FY a bit further round

[pendlerail]

7 hours ago, RobinofLoxley said:

Are you operating from the cetral area? Its only 2' across, you must be skinny. Or is it just for hand of god movements.

 

Presumaby you have worked out that the  'open' side sidings are long enough for your stock. I know some of them can be easily increased.

 

There are going to be some fairly ugly platform gaps but I suppose you have found the only remaining space where a station can be placed.

 

There are a few dodgy spots in the FY but this is a consequence of Anyrail, bending flexitrack freehand, and it should be alright when laid. The concept seems good. I bet there will be a few tweaks done!

 

One point - a train arriving at the inner platform, which is presumably going out of service to the MPD some of the time, how does it get there? At present the shortest route is reversing out onto the mainline. 🤔 Would be possible to split the inner loop on the RHS (per DCB) ?

Only using middle for "fiddling", operation will be by tablet on outside, depot will just be locos, inner line at station is not a platform, but a run round/depot entrance 

[RobinofLoxley]

14 hours ago, pendlerail said:

Only using middle for "fiddling", operation will be by tablet on outside, depot will just be locos, inner line at station is not a platform, but a run round/depot entrance 

It wasnt the inner line I was referring to, it was the third platform line. Trains in the MPD can get out onto the main lines after a lap through the fiddle yard, but my first thought was the only way they could  get back in, after arriving at platform 3, was by reversing. I then checked and realised they could be driven into the fiddle yard and reverse back to the MPD; a bit clumsy but it works.

[pendlerail]

I am reasonably happy with the plan, only locos will be going onto the depot from a Yard/ sidings nearby, using the line next to platform 3, the two dead end sidings will be units from the branch service, only platform 3 will be Bi Directional, and I have removed 2 sidings from the fiddle yardand spread out the sidings a bit. 

 

[RobinofLoxley]

For some reason its always easier to view a track plan in landscape.

 

My sympathies trying to produce something involving the use of curved points and flexi track to get the longest possible lines in the yard.

 

There is a lot of scope for operations with this layout. I think there are also a few restrictions arising from the fiddle yard design.

 

My main question though, is why the two dead end sidings face the way that they do. As drawn they face the station platforms and i wonder if it would be better operationally if they faced the other way, facilitating movements to the MPD instead. Just a thought.

[pendlerail]

6 hours ago, RobinofLoxley said:

For some reason its always easier to view a track plan in landscape.

 

My sympathies trying to produce something involving the use of curved points and flexi track to get the longest possible lines in the yard.

 

There is a lot of scope for operations with this layout. I think there are also a few restrictions arising from the fiddle yard design.

 

My main question though, is why the two dead end sidings face the way that they do. As drawn they face the station platforms and i wonder if it would be better operationally if they faced the other way, facilitating movements to the MPD instead. Just a thought.

The two dead end sidings are for units off the Branch, the two through sidings above will be light engine movements etc, I have ground the 6.5 foot width restrictive, but I am happy with what I have at the moment, will see what actually happens when track is layer though 

[pendlerail]

When the bottom left bit was authorised by planning I thought I could fit more in but again unless I  ran a fan of points direct from the main line and ended up with 3 short sidings with no space for a protecting signal, and the planning authorities wanted an area of scenery to build her self, hence the turnback siding.