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On 03/03/2022 at 22:13, Il Grifone said:

If I lived in Australia*, I might have been interested (I do have a Lima NSWGR C38, a coach, and a wagon), but this is a bit too much, so I'll have to pass! (SWMBO would have a fit and, being Tri-ang, I suspect the scale is not H0).

 

This one:

 

 

And it looks like they've rehashed the coaches (I think he means 'six axle' not 'six wheel'.:

 

 

*  It could have happened. There was an opportunity in the early seventies, but we decided it was just too far away! - maybe it was a mistake as it looks like 'On the Beach' could come true! Let's hope it's just sabre missile rattling!

 

On 04/03/2022 at 01:21, Wolseley said:

The C38 wasn't too bad in its day, but the tender was all wrong.  Rather than a model of a C38 tender, Lima used one from an existing model of theirs - an SNCF 141R I think.

 

The Lima NSWGR C38 Pacific has been mentioned in this part of the forum before, as can be seen from the above posts.

 

Why mention it now?  Well, I just bought two of them.  I saw two come up for sale on eBay at a low starting price and put in bids on each.  One was an unlettered black one and the other a green one.  I was expecting one or both to go for more than my maximum bid, otherwise I would only have bid on one, but bidding for both stopped just a few dollars under my last bid.  I should have them in a few days, as the vendor is in Australia.  In the meantime I have to figure out what I'm going to do with two of the things.......

 

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Well, I should have them this weekend.  I got a message from the vendor that he will be visiting someone in the suburb where I am on Sunday, so he'll drop them off rather than posting them.

 

I have been thinking that I will number the black one 3827, as that was the only 38 class I saw that did not end up being preserved although, that said, it was awaiting scrapping and not in steam when I saw it.  The green one, which is presently numbered 3830, will become 3813, for the reason that it was the only 38 class I saw in steam in revenue earning service, four months before it was withdrawn in September of 1970.

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They arrived this morning and turned out to be in better condition than I was expecting.  Here is the green one:

 

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As for the black one, I'm afraid I separated the body and chassis before I thought of taking a photograph, but here is one showing the locomotive and tender chassis.  The driving wheels on the right have pick-ups, as do the tender wheels on the left, the tender being electrically linked to the locomotive by the drawbar.  It looks like it should be pretty straightforward to convert it to 3 rail collection.

 

I was surprised to see that the centre driver on these models was flanged - something I had obviously forgotten about.  It's the rear driver that is geared to the motor and it has minimal side-play.  The front driving wheels have a bit of side-play, but the centre ones have 3mm on each side.

 

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Well, I have now finished converting 3820 to three rail, using a Marklin skate.  I fitted non-insulated wheels to the tender so that the pick-up from the outer rails is on all eight tender wheels and three of the driving wheels..  After I tried it out I noticed that it's missing its traction tyre, so that's something else for me to sort out.  In the meantime I still have 3830 to take care of.

 

Here's a video of 3820 on the layout, sans traction tyre.  As you can see, it has no difficulty negotiating a diamond crossing, perhaps the most troublesome piece of Dublo trackwork (my layout was originally going to have two of them but, thankfully, one was eliminated in the planning stages)

 

 

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Lima wheels are quite near to Dublo standards (allowing for metric vs Imperial origins) and I have had no trouble running them. Dublo trackwork is quite forgiving (vicious radii apart, but other makes (Lima included) were worse!)

What is the problem with the diamond crossings? I have never found them troublesome.

 

The Tender is from their 141R. They did a version of this in U.S. guise (not 100% convincing despite its origins) but gave it the 141R tender too. It's not correct here either!

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3830 at work on the layout.  She can handle four Dublo tinplate LMS coaches fairly well, but struggles with the SD ones, slipping now and then.

 

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