GWR Wartime Black Pannier in Cornwall?

[Halls and Prairies]

Hi All,

 

Appreciate this might be chasing rainbows due to the scarcity of photographs in the immediate post-war period, but ….. does anybody have any hard evidence of a GWR Pannier in Wartime Black in mid Cornwall please? Or other loco types for that matter. 

 

The closest I can yet identify is a couple of 46xx which were built in Wartime so *should* have been painted that way, which were allocated to Laira, so *might* have found their way over the Tamar on loan to the smaller sheds on occasion.
 

Thanks in anticipation!

[KeithMacdonald]

There's some pics of GWR locos in wartime black on the HMRS website.

e.g.

https://hmrs.org.uk/ach334-hoare-brothers-tavistock-20t-steel-open-sx2-no-20-op-1927-f3r-rivetted-const-empty-to-pitts-cl.html

[Hal Nail]

You can look up when locos were in for major works. You could check if any of St Blazeys had works visits and that might indicate that they probably got black, even if not conclusive 

[The Great Bear]

3 minutes ago, Hal Nail said:

You can look up when locos were in for major works. You could check if any of St Blazeys had works visits and that might indicate that they probably got black, even if not conclusive 

Where would one find this info for panniers? Is this kind of info in the relevant Pannier Paper book?

[Miss Prism]

A works visit did not necessarily mean a repaint, although a refresh would have been more likely after a major.  Repainting was not a priority in the dark days of 1942.

 

Panniers that would have been black from new were:

 

4635-4660 (built 1942-3)
4661-4699 (built 1942-45)
9600-21  (built 1945)
 

but a caveat applies to the first and third of those lots - although the start of the black era is thought to be between February and April 1942, it is not known when in 1945 green started to reappear.