Jump to content
 

To stimulate discussion, post photos and exchange ideas, and (being an open public forum) help encourage others to try S scale modelling.

1930s era German coach model


steverabone
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • RMweb Premium

If you having been following my various posts about constructing rolling stock for my German S Scale layout you may have noticed the absence of pre WW2 rolling stock.

 

So now I have a range of post war carriages available it seems a logical step to build some pre-WW2 carriages for my German layout. Many of these vehicles were in service until the 1980s and on several occasions I found myself travelling in one.

img698.jpg.3ec17b9320bf5ec001e379e0bf8f491f.jpg

This is a type Byge667 which was built in the late 1930s and was included in the formation of a Norden to Wilhelmshaven local train in 1980. This type is interesting visually as two of the windows in the centre are spaced closer together than the rest of the windows.

There were several different types of various lengths whilst some had double doors and others single doors. Interiors also varied. with 2 plus 2 seating as well as 2 plus 3.

There are two types that I intend to build. The diagram below is of the Byge667. This has a slightly unusual appearance as two of the windows at the centre are spaced much closer together than the rest.

img692.jpg.2c4671c5953406a4472aea78e54d431f.jpg

A slightly longer version is the Byge655 which has evenly spaced windows

img28.gif.9ab82f7dcd85718f3287d58b23a92988.gif

Byge637

 

I've decided to build a Byge655 first and have used some parts from one of Herrn Pirling's pdf  kits (available on one of the German card model forums) to assist construction slightly. The carriage he designed is one of the longer versions of these 1930s built coaches. By selecting the shorter Byge655 it means I can use the carriage with two of my DB Umbauwagen and still be able to run round the train in Niederwangen station.

imgD4.jpg.d848cc71f6509da30ccd5098955bf3bb.jpg

 

imgC10.jpg.b0631797c17405a2b0374f298a96dd00.jpg

The coach base is made out of three layers of greyboard glued together and with the upper layer having the seat plan glued in place on the top.

img694.jpg.853534a1164665fbe3a724e1c5c29b70.jpg

Unfortunately, in S Scale the ends and body sides are too long to fit on a single length of A4 card so they are made from three separate pieces of card. The coach sides and recessed doors were printed out on

220 gsm card and then glued in place to the top edge of the base. The inward sloping body sides and door ends overlap and are glued together.

img696.jpg.e5b4dbc8e837c104b01311bb9c1b6fa4.jpg

These pre-war coaches didn't have many cross walls to break up the interior so I've adopted a slightly different method of construction for the saloons compared to my other carriages. After cutting a layer of card in a comb-like shaped into which the glazing will slot (as above)......

img697.jpg.34d255cbc6d20a0971b794b9d162d6d3.jpg

 

.....the inner layer is made out of a strip of 2mm mounting board that fits along the inside of the saloon and has holes cut in it very slightly larger than the outer window. Both layers are glued to the outer wall

of the carriage and now form a really rigid side. This will be made even stronger after the seats are added and the roof structure slotted in place. The thin card needs considerable reinforcement especially

at the ends so I've added an internal layer of 2mm thick mounting board on the inside of the vestibule ends. Space has been left behind the door windows for a piece of glazing strip to be added later.

img699.jpg.1684b795a88b7a376c09f4c35adaa282.jpg

All the seats and toilet walls are now in place. The seat backs are out of strips of mounting board and thin card is used for the seats which are supported on more strips of mounting board running along the the sides just below window level..

img700.jpg.525eb93b42c47fdd78cebe356d8bb539.jpg

The roof is built as a separate unit. The base is a 2mm thick piece of mounting board cut to fit tightly inside the ends of the carriage and about 2mm narrower than width of the body. On to this is glued a vertical central spine of mounting board which is cut to overlap the ends and provide support for the domed end of the roof. Layers of mounting board of reducing width are glued to the base to give support to the curved roof covering.

img703.jpg.9ba2d9e1d4e5d6e4efd50adb59a8f94a.jpg

The domed ends were more complex to produce than I expected so I decided to remove the curved top of the ends and glue this to the roof substructure, The section removed is inside the red outline.

img702.jpg.8b8935421cc2913945d9de4d83dcda2d.jpg

The central section of the roof is a layer of thin card coated on its underside with two part epoxy resin. The card is also wrapped around under the roof substructure and secured to its underside.

img704.jpg.43344514582da25b58f318491bd81095.jpg

The domed ends were made by curving and gluing two thin strips of card to the tapered ends of the roof sub base. These overlapped the ends and met in the centre line of the roof. As the epoxy sets the card was

curved into shape with finger pressure. Any gaps were filled with epoxy.

img705.jpg.ec88b0ad1e95da9a0333e198f104e0c8.jpg

The rain strips along the length of the roof have been added as well as the strips across the roof using 10 thou microstrip. The ventilator panels for the toilet are thick rectangles of card.

img706.jpg.9a8bc8a84d3dca50d4c73892227d9926.jpg

The gap between the end of the carriage and the curved end to the roof . This will be filled in after the roof is finally secured to the body.

img707.jpg.6fd186ac5c023965f0381c11c4cf83e7.jpg

I've used a different method to constructing the bogies making these as a one piece structure, rather in the manner of those found in some etched bogie kits.

The bogie sides and the centre pivot stretcher are cut from one piece of brass sheet as in the diagram above. Holes for the bearings are drilled out and then a heavy duty knife is used to score the brass around

the central pivot stretcher. The two rectangles (in red above) are then removed by first cutting along the long edges and then bending the brass repeatedly until they come loose. The bogie sides can then be folded along the scored lines to give the basic bogie frame.

img708.jpg.24ab290e654d81db8adfefc49551c4e0.jpg

Top hat bearings are then fitted, the side frames are then trimmed roughly to the correct shape using scissors. After inserting the wheels the end stretcher bars (brass wire) are soldered in place.

The two bogies with the basic frame overlays added from card. Details will be built up on these from different layers of card and wire. The press studs used as bogie pivots and the strips of brass wire used to

prevent the body of the coach rocking can also be seen. The male part of the press studs are soldered to a rectangle of brass glued under the carriage floor.

img709.jpg.6f287dac6d0c1abb130ca51ff4c583b4.jpg

img710.jpg.e5be44b0457628f18b8d6ce59197a3c4.jpg

One of the problems I faced with this model was the roof ventilators. These were an unusual shape which is difficult to reproduce in model form and obviously there are no suitable castings available. I've used 1mm diameter wire bent into a U shape with a short and long leg. The long leg goes into a hole drilled into the roof whilst the short leg just touches the curve of the roof. Another vertical length of brass is soldered to the short leg and this is then covered with some epoxy. The aim is for it to look something like the small image of the roof of a HO scale model.

img711.jpg.5a7f531cbcee7109197d361807ae140f.jpg

The buffers (BR heavy duty wagon white metal castings) and the end steps (from nickel silver wire and strip) have been added. A Hornby coupling has been added at one end and a Kadee at the other end. I intend to run the coach with either one or two bogie Umbauwagen which have Kadee couplings at the inner ends.

img712.jpg.c459ea9b125434c0e17aafa98f126327.jpg

I've now added the long metal handrails at the doors as well as the various longitudinal and vertical beading strips that can be found on the coach sides.

img713.jpg.e65889574ca491f53c7961f9a29be957.jpg

The detailing on the bogies is from the pdf kit and is simply a series of multiple layers of card to represent the springs and axleboxes.

img714.jpg.5800b792883643eaa5b4a7f6a8951e47.jpg

The completed model: glazing has been inserted in the window slot, corridor connections added and lettering as usual from Andreas Nothaft. The roof is permamently glued in place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by steverabone
  • Like 12
  • Craftsmanship/clever 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

I spray everything with grey car primer and then brush paint with Humbol enamels.

The correct colour is RAL 6020 (chromdiogydgrun) green used on DB electrics and green coaches - Humbrol 195

 

The transfers for the lettering have been specially produced (resized from HO to S Scale) for me by a small German firm https://www.modellbahndecals.de/ . They come as a complete set of lettering for one coach. The body is sprayed with gloss varnish before the waterslide transfers are added and then several coats of matt varnish are sprayed to fix them in place. The bogies are spray painted with matt black (weathering still to be applied).

  • Like 1
  • Craftsmanship/clever 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with Rosedale this is a very fine model.   Sticking the coach roof on makes sense to me.  It is far simpler than trying to work out a way of making a removable roof.  Particularly on a coach like this where the roof is much better deployed to strengthen the sides than making something removable that will probably never be removed.

 

Very nice work....sending out the invite to the next zoom call later this evening :-)

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...