RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2023 Hi everyone, Although the following questions springs from markings on a model, it relates to a prototype feature of which I can find little to know information. Allocations (1970s/80s): The van was marked return to New Cross Gate - was this an allocation, in the same way as a locomtive, or was it to indicate traffic flow start/end points? Pool Codes: It carries the pool code 87603 - can anybody enlighten me as to what traffic this was? New Cross Gate: So far the only informaiton I can find relates to either the steam era or London Transport. The vehicle in question is a BR Std 20t Brake - air piped. What traffic originated from this location in the 70s/80s? As ever, thanks for any answers or pointers to further information. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 The number 87603 relates to the TOPS location number for New Cross Gate. I have a copy of the Southern Region CCE Wagon Guide issued in October 1983, it lists all the dual piped traffic brake vans in TOPS wagon pool 9218 and mentions they may be used on Departmental trains when specially authorised by the Chief Operating Manager. There were 26 brake vans listed, all allocated to a specific yard and stencilled with the TOPS location number of the 'home' location to which they were to be returned after use. There were 3 vans held at New Cross Gate (87603) for contingency purposes:- B954661, B954750, B954759. cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 A lot of the information you are interested in can be found in https://hmrs.org.uk/british-railways-brakevans-&-ballast-ploughs-book.html at a very reasonable price Paul https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted October 24, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 Hi again, Many thanks for those bits of information and further references. @hmrspaul, I must admit to having seen the book before but did not realise that it contained information on TOPS reporting etc. I will look out for a copy in the coming weeks. Again, many thanks. Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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