Monjac Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just tried to retrofit a TTS Sound card to Hornby Oliver Cromwell/Britannia. When I first fitted card everything worked .Good sound. Forward and backwards etc.. Then sound stopped. Now can only go backwards and forwards. Have I blown something ? Any ideas please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Daft question I know but you haven't pressed function 1 by accident ? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 Fair point. No. As I said.It worked fine to start when first fitted. Then just stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n9 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Daft question #2: Have you checked the speaker connections? Without more knowledge, I'd try to isolate if the problem is with the speaker itself or the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted October 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2023 Using the supplied speaker or swapped it for another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 I was using the supplied speaker. It worked really well for 5 minutes and then just stopped. The connections look fine , Mystery. I am new to DCC . Does this sort of thing happen. Do speakers simply blow ? Otherwise I cannot see anything else logical. I even tried a Hornby controller instead of the Gaugemaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted October 31, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) The amplifier circuit on the decoder usually blows, not the speaker. The typical causes are either a momentary short circuit across the speaker wires or the wrong impedance speaker for the decoder - e.g. driving a 4Ohm speaker with a decoder rated for 8Ohms only, especially when the volume is turned up high. Did you see smoke or smell burning? Whether you did or not, you might be able to see evidence of heat on the decoder, which would be a tell-tale sign. If you're not sure what to look for, post photos here of the front and back of the decoder. Edited October 31, 2023 by Harlequin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Can you do a cv8 reset ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted November 1, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) I’d try another speaker just to be sure but in my experience with the TTS the amp will have blown. They can do this at the drop of a hat, very susceptible to the slightest hint of static with some. Hornby were very good at replacing them but whether they have stocks any more now is another matter since they moved on to the bluetooth ones. Bob p.s. I always use insulating tape everywhere to make sure there is little chance of shorts and to damp static. A reel of Tamiya masking tape is your friend here…. Edited November 1, 2023 by Izzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n9 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Izzy said: p.s. I always use insulating tape everywhere to make sure there is little chance of shorts and to damp static. A reel of Tamiya masking tape is your friend here…. Really? I shelled out for Kapton tape. Does Tamiya masking tape work better or just as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, n9 said: Really? I shelled out for Kapton tape. Does Tamiya masking tape work better or just as well? Kapton tape - expensive stuff which is reasonably heat resistant (so soldering by it is possible). Difficult to form into tight shapes. Doesn't always stick to things well. Can be difficult to remove and re-fix. Tamiya masking tape - expensive, (though not that expensive), not heat resistant. Easy to form into tight shapes, easy to cut to different shapes. Sticks when you want it to. Stands a certain amount of re-fixing. As basic level insulation, both achieve the same result in stopping metal parts touching things they shouldn't. I much prefer the Tamiya tape, its far far easier to work with, can paint it if it needs colouring, etc.. - Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 The important thing is to insulate metalwork, rather than wrap up a decoder in sticky tape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 i WILL HAVE TO TAKE THE BODY OFF AGAIN AND HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAY. i THINK THE SHORT CIRCUIT IDEA IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED AS i WASN'T VERY CAREFUL. PUT IT DOWN TO EXPERIENCE. I ALSO DAMAGED THE MOTION PUTTING THE TOP BACK ON. I DID NOT HAVE A VERY GOOD DAY.IT PAYS TO STAY CALM AND NOT GET ANGRY. WILL WE EVER LEARN. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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