00 gauge Florence No2

[Ben Forster]

Does anyone know where I can get the right shade of maroon that will match the coal board colour. I’m planning to make a bagnall works 0-6-0st Florence no2 and I need this colour for the main body and under frame. Because I don’t have an airbrush I planning to use an aerosol so if anybody could give me a colour coded or a name or colour or product please let me know. Thanks.

Edited April 12 by Ben Forster

[doilum]

Problem is that this is nothing  like the marroon used in area 8, so a standard NCB maroon probably doesn't exist. If this is the colour you want take the photo into Halfords or a similar shop and compare it to the cans on the rack. Alternatively take it to a . automotive paint supplier and get a rattlecan custom mixed. This is how I obtained something close to the Area 8 red.

[Jeremy Cumberland]

I have no idea what colour the locomotive was when it was at Florence Colliery (Division No.6 West Midlands - North Staffordshire Area), but it was blue when it was at Cadley Hill  (Division No 5 East Midlands - Area No 7 South Derbyshire and Leicestershire).

 

Divisions and areas seemed to be allowed to choose their own colours for locomotives, but I don't recall red or maroon being a common colour, and the only one I can (half) remember is Antwerp at Wheldale.

[The Johnster]

Looking around South Wales in the late 60s/early 70s (can’t offhand remember any red or shades of it), there were forty shades of green, and some blue.  There were red and chevroned buffer beams, different styles of chevrons, or none, and 9600 at Merthyr Vale retained it’s BR dartboard livery, including warning flashes, as did D3000 at Mountain Ash.  Locos got transferred between sites and liveries varied at the same colliery.  There were different styles of lettering, and lining out, or none, and some were kept well, others weren’t.  If the area management had ever tried to devise a standard livery, never mind establish it across the fleet, there was little evidence of it!

Edited November 28, 2023 by The Johnster

[doilum]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:

I have no idea what colour the locomotive was when it was at Florence Colliery (Division No.6 West Midlands - North Staffordshire Area), but it was blue when it was at Cadley Hill  (Division No 5 East Midlands - Area No 7 South Derbyshire and Leicestershire).

 

Divisions and areas seemed to be allowed to choose their own colours for locomotives, but I don't recall red or maroon being a common colour, and the only one I can (half) remember is Antwerp at Wheldale.

Red was the official colour of Area 8 and was applied to all locomotives leaving the Allerton Bywater area workshop, sometimes plain but usually lined out and often with a black tank top. For reasons unexplained the Fryston / Wheldale locomotives were green some almost apple green others closer to Swindon poverty spec. This was probably sheer bloody mindedness on the part of individual managers who, given an instruction to paint them green would have immediately ordered gallons of red paint. Oddly Glasshoughton. #4 was green as was Ackton Hall #3 but in this case it was the standard Peckett colour.

The most photographed of all, S134 aka  Wheldale owed it's green livery to a BBC contract but that is another story.

Edited November 28, 2023 by doilum

[Ben Forster]

Finally got the right colour after asking the volunteer who repainted her at The Foxfield Light Railway. BR Crimson she was painted in and luckily this was available in a aerosol form and pot form from Railmatch paints.

[5050]

I know the 'problem' is now sorted but can you still get British Leyland Damask Red?  Bit darker than BR red I think but great for Midland stock.

[Moxy]

1 hour ago, 5050 said:

I know the 'problem' is now sorted but can you still get British Leyland Damask Red?  Bit darker than BR red I think but great for Midland stock.

 

It can be ordered from a specialist auto paint maker or motor factor, but it's no longer available off the shelf from the likes of Halfords.

 

Rover Group went out of business 19 years ago, I don't think any Rover/BL colours are a stock item for the motor trade any more.

[Ben Forster]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265103188728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=734sWtTNTq2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=htnukxhxr3o&var=564977062269&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
 

Just searched the colour into google and I’ve got this eBay link. Hope this helps.

[Ben Forster]

Now got a chassis painted and now awaiting modification to slide valves and waiting for sandbox’s to be added under the cab. Still need to buy last details for the body like the handrails and dart etc

 

Edited April 15 by Ben Forster