Spot the difference! What did I break off of my Ivatt 2MT???

[n9]

This tiny bit fell off my N Dapol Ivatt 2MT (see pic with ruler), and I've literally spent the last three days playing spot the difference with every pic I can find on the web, but I can't for the life of me see where it broke off from. Not even looking under magnification. The only clue: looking straight down at the loco from above, and with the tender closest to me, I found it on the right hand side of the loco.

 

Can anyone work it out?

 

The model works fine.

 

Here's a pic from the web for reference:

 

 

 

And here are shots of my model:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The one with the ruler shows the small piece in between it and the loco. (The white is white tack from where I've tried to keep it from getting lost.) Sorry I can't get it any bigger or with better light. But it almost looks like the "head" of that small piece has two tiny protrusions that might be intended to slot into something else. Or the protrusions are entirely cosmetic. I have no idea. And it's driving me bananas! 🙂 Grrrrr!!

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 13 by n9
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[John Clitsome]

Can't see what it is but have you had a look inside the cab detail and the tender facing it?

[n9]

51 minutes ago, John Clitsome said:

Can't see what it is but have you had a look inside the cab detail and the tender facing it?

I haven't been in there. It's a pretty small gap to look into, and I saw that removing tender from loco wasn't as simple as just undoing the screw. It's such a delicate model that I hope someone will know the answer before I take my tools to it. Not sure I would anyway, unless it turns out to be something really important or I have a much better reason to.

[The Johnster]

I’d hang on to it, and the tac, somewhere safe like the loco box, then forget about it.  Then, if you ever do get it identified, you can then glue it back on.  

[moawkwrd]

It’s off the tender isn’t it? There’s bits either side of the filler cap in the product shots and yours only has them toward the rear.

 

Ignore - the different angles were playing tricks.

Edited May 14 by moawkwrd

[n9]

8 hours ago, The Johnster said:

I’d hang on to it, and the tac, somewhere safe like the loco box, then forget about it.  Then, if you ever do get it identified, you can then glue it back on.  

Definitely by far the most sensible thing to do, but grrrrr!! Hahaha!

 

6 hours ago, moawkwrd said:

Ignore - the different angles were playing tricks.

I know exactly how you feel - bl**dy thing!

[cypherman]

Might I suggest that you go to your local model shop. If they are helpful that is and ask them can you compare a new model to yours. I would also take a much closer picture of the item so we can see better what it is. Just looks like a small air vent to me in your picture. It might also be worth taking a close up look at the new Hornby 2mt. I know it is not the same model. But it is the same engine and therefore have the same fittings. The pictures would be to a larger scale making it easier to identify where it may have come from and it might just show you where such an object might be fitted.

Edited May 14 by cypherman

[n9]

27 minutes ago, cypherman said:

Might I suggest that you go to your local model shop. If they helpful that is and ask them can you compare a new model to yours. I would also take a much closer picture of the item so we can see better what it is. Just looks like a small air vent to me in your picture. It might also be worth taking a close up look at the new Hornby 2mt. I know it is not the same model. But it is the same engine and therefore have the same fittings. The pictures would be to a larger scale making it easier to identify where it may have come from and it might just show you where such an object might be fitted.

Good suggestions, but sadly I'm not in the UK and visiting stores that stock these things isn't straightforward.

 

I've taken a couple more pics. Of the "front" and "back". Even with tweezers I can't get it to rest on its side.

 

 

 

The camera on my phone is pretty good, but the part is just so small I can't get it any closer without it blurring.

 

If viewing these on a phone, pinch-zooming in is the best option. If on PC, right-click "open image in new tab" (or similar option - make sure it's the image you're opeining in a new tab, not the link/web page), and then use the browser's option to zoom the image, usually Ctrl and "+" key. I can't think of any other way to get a better view of this across, but I'm all ears!

 

Grrrr! Hahahaha!

[bmb5dnp1]

Hello,

    I'm not sure as the pictures aren't that clear on the monitor I'm using so apologies if this is nonsense ! I found a similar small piece had fallen off one of my 2mt's and it turned out to be from the top of the cylinder rear just above the slide rods (next to the valve chest ?).The piece was so small that I just left it off although it is quite noticeable when you know where to look !

 

                                   Dave

[Hal Nail]

I couldn't see properly in the photos but are these covers (?) separate parts and is the one on yours in this position, actually there?

 

 

 

[n9]

 

28 minutes ago, Hal Nail said:

I couldn't see properly in the photos but are these covers (?) separate parts and is the one on yours in this position, actually there?

 

 

 

 

Sorry, got sidetracked experimenting with my frogs*, which aside from sounding ghastly, means I have some serious lighting and some better photos of my loco.

 

I still don't see any missing bits there, unless it's staring me in the face? @bmb5dnp1 Is Hal's circled area where you meant, too?

 

 

 

 

 

 

* For anyone remotely interested, I've made the frogs smaller to combat the Grand Canyons Peco left there. Better than expected results, but not sure yet if I'll go there on a full layout.

[bmb5dnp1]

3 hours ago, n9 said:

 

 

Sorry, got sidetracked experimenting with my frogs*, which aside from sounding ghastly, means I have some serious lighting and some better photos of my loco.

 

I still don't see any missing bits there, unless it's staring me in the face? @bmb5dnp1 Is Hal's circled area where you meant, too?

 

 

 

 

 

 

* For anyone remotely interested, I've made the frogs smaller to combat the Grand Canyons Peco left there. Better than expected results, but not sure yet if I'll go there on a full layout.

Hello,

   Yes that's the area I meant. Looking at the pictures, is the part missing from the left hand side or is it just the angle of the picture ?

 

Dave

Edited May 15 by bmb5dnp1
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[Hal Nail]

is there a hole at the back here?

 

[n9]

7 hours ago, bmb5dnp1 said:

Hello,

   Yes that's the area I meant. Looking at the pictures, is the part missing from the left hand side or is it just the angle of the picture ?

 

Dave

 

4 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

is there a hole at the back here?

 

 

I think everything is present and correct there? Here's another pic taken a little more in focus - it's really at the limit of my camera's close-up ability:

 

 

It's looking like I'm going to have to take The Johnster's very sensible advice and park my silly frustration. Really appreciate you guys taking the time though. Thanks!

 

Grrrr! Hahahaha!