RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted July 22, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2010 Greetings chaps, Couple of quick questions regarding the above wagon. Myself and a fellow P4er have decided to look into building a model of Boscarne Junction, with the future possibility of building something based on the North Cornwall line (Wadebridge has been mentioned a number of times!). I am currently a little confused with the Ratio BR 'Clayhood' Wagon. I understand that the 'hoods' were a 70s thing, so I'm not interested in that, but what livery should these wagons be painted in, BR Bauxite similar to this wagon seen on the Bodmin and Wenford line, or something else? The other question is some of these wagons have Split axle boxes, the same as the one above, but others have BR or RCH fittings. Please help, because I am now quite puzzled! Were the split axle boxes only used on some examples? Many thanks in advance, Regards Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Dear Nick Plenty for you to get on with here. BR China Clay - Clayhood" (C#980567) – 77 photographs http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c980567.html Not to be confused with the open merchandise which were in clay traffic Clay open merchandise wagons, pre-nationalisation origin – 25 photographs http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c163031.html BR Clay open merchandise wagons, BR origin – 19 photographs http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c163789.html Paul Bartlett York Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted July 22, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2010 Thank you Paul, that has cleared it up very nicely. (I had forgotten about your site!) Regards, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Squinting at the first small picture it seems to have roller bearings not split type. Your 2nd photo looks to have the furthest wagons with BR/LMS split box (EMGS do a good wm one) with the nearest one having a mix of square type split boxes that I don't think anyone models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'd make an educated guess most of these were built with split boxes but could easily have acquired plate equivalents soon enough - roller bearings (which were very rare anyway) wouldnt have appeared until the 80s, probably by cross-pollination from the 10ft wb Clayliner fleet IIRC early batches of these wagons were built unfitted with double brake, with later ones being vac Morton. I'd think that in 1958, the early wagons would have been starting to be upgraded to VB, so a few grey ones wouldnt go amiss. There might also have been some GW and ex-PO wagons in the fleet at that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Most would have been grey* in 1958, hidden under a layer of white. China clay gets everywhere! BR axleboxes were a mixed bunch like the wheels. Replacements were the 'next off the pile' rather than matching them and were frequently mixed on the same wagon. AFAIK roller bearings came in with vacuum fittings (from 1957 B743300 - 743874, but were by no means universal. *ex GWR/PO and B743000 - B743299 (1954 - 1956) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 . AFAIK roller bearings came in with vacuum fittings (from 1957 B743300 - 743874, but were by no means universal. Invisible ink again ...- roller bearings (which were very rare anyway) wouldnt have appeared until the 80s, probably by cross-pollination from the 10ft wb Clayliner fleet If anybody does know of a pre-80s photo, please point me in its direction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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