black and decker boy Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Can anyone help with background to the new Bachmann Tankers - 'National Benzole' and 'Mobil'. Where and when did these wagons operate - in particular, would they have been seen in Scotland in the early 1960s? I am finding it difficult to track down pics of fuel tanks in Scotland although have so far confirmed Briggs of Dundee, Shell \ BP and Esso. Thanks in advance, happy new year Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Hi Black and Decker Boy do you mean National Benzole, or National Fetilizers? I can't say if it would answer your query but there is a very good book about tankers called: 'Petroleum Rail Tank Wagons of Britain' by R.Tourret, ISBN: 978-0-905878-09-6 by Tourret Publishing, 2009 edition. It has a wealth of photos (B&W) and information on all kinds of tank wagons. If it doesn't help your query, it may well be of use, nonetheless. Have a great New Year 2011 and Happy Modelling! Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 P.S.: Buffers still seem to have the following Dapol Scottish 14t tanker: Scottish Cables of Renfrew Shown on p95 of the book mentioned in my last posting. There are also three more Hornby ones at Harburn Hobbies: 'Anglo-Scottish Chemical Co.', 'Scottish Oil Agency' and 'Crichton's Oil Co.' The Crichton's Oil Co. tanker is actually really quite presentable... just a personal favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 According to Wikipedia: National Benzole joined the Shell-Mex and BP Ltd family in 1957 but continued to trade separately. In 1959, responding to the growing importance of benzole as a specialist chemical, it was decided to concentrate on this market by means of a new company named Benzole Producers Limited.[1] At the same time the motor fuel marketing business was now fully merged with Shell-Mex and BP Ltd.[1] Benzole (no longer part of the mixture) was dropped from the fuel's name and Mr Mercury’s black and chrome gave way to sparkling new yellow, blue and white. Following the de-merger of Shell-Mex and British Petroleum (BP) in 1976, the National brand continued to be distinctively marketed by BP for over a decade. National Benzole liveried tankers would have been included in Shell-Mex/BP trains, there's a pic in Geoff Gamble's 'Railways in Profile No.4' of this (less helpfully it's at Chalfont and Latimer rather than Scotland). There's another pic in Geoff Kent's "4mm Wagon Vol 2" of Shell-Mex/BP wagons at a refinery with a scattering of National wagons in amongst them. Whether 'fully merged' meant that after 1959 all the tankers had the same stuff in them regardless of branding, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 P.S.: Buffers still seem to have the following Dapol Scottish 14t tanker: Scottish Cables of Renfrew Shown on p95 of the book mentioned in my last posting. More photographs of the BR version of this wagon from here - http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p472236.html The LMS diagram in Essery vol. 1 appears very similar to the BR version (he knew of no photographs of the two LMS wagons) - so the model is very inaccurate. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Can anyone help with background to the new Bachmann Tankers - 'National Benzole' and 'Mobil'. Where and when did these wagons operate - in particular, would they have been seen in Scotland in the early 1960s? ... At the other end of the line to Scotland. Mobil fuel oil (black solebar) tankers of the small 4w wagon variety (precise design uncertain) could be seen supplying a BR diesel fuelling point, specifically KX 'Bottom Shed' circa 1960. The reason I know this is that I was somewhat offended as a child by the spelling, the word is spelt MOBILE thank you very much, and I have it dated in a school exercise book in my own not very fair hand. (By about 1970, if memory serves it was ShellMex/BP branded tankers of the 35T and 45T type at Finsbury Park and KX fuelling point.) Did BR buy its' fuel oil from a single vendor, or was it a patchwork of local sourcing? I tend to think that in 1960 it may have been the latter, as BR at that time was still run on regional lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Fantastic, thanks everyone. I had spotted the Scottish Cables 3 wheel tank on Paul Bartletts Website (Great resource for us fellow modellers Paul, thank you for sharing it) so may be tempted to get one even though its not 100% accurate and will see if I can get the Tourret book. thanks again Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Graham, If you visit the excellent warwickshirerailways.com website and find Foleshill on the Nuneaton to Coventry line, there is a good 1961 colour photo by Michael Mensing of National Benzole tanks in a train with others by Shell, Esso and ICI. another Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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