LNWR lives on Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi I have recently built the parkside 6 ton fish van but am somewhat strugling with the colour The informtaion sheet states it should be 'lake undercoat varnished'. Precision supply crimson lake, but i can find no indication as to an undercoat colour/shade. Can anyone help me out with advice to where I can buy a suitable colour/or mixing of. Thank you David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi I have recently built the parkside 6 ton fish van but am somewhat strugling with the colour The informtaion sheet states it should be 'lake undercoat varnished'. Precision supply crimson lake, but i can find no indication as to an undercoat colour/shade. Can anyone help me out with advice to where I can buy a suitable colour/or mixing of. Thank you David Sounds to me like they are referring to the colour often quoted as used on the ends of coaches. I personally would use LNWR plum and satin or matt varnish it. It certainly wouldnt be a reference to LMS lake unless the van was being finished in LMS livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR lives on Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Bit more information may help, I am intending to paint it for LMS running. Built for express fish traffic, classified as non passenger carrying coaching stock, and "body colour was lake undercoat varnished, this would give a browner shade than lake topcoat'. So would LNWR plum be a good representation on this basis or would lms lake which has been darkened be a better colour to apply to the wagon? Thank you for the reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted February 24, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't know if it is right or wrong but following the notes in the instructions you mentioned about it being browner, I mixed about 25% LMS freight bauxite to crimson lake (both railmatch) this has given a browner shade and looks quite good, as I say I don't know if this is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I guess the lake undercoat varnished is therefore a reference to a shade that probably resembled Bauxite Brown as adopted for all wagons by the LMS circa 1937. Initially the Fish Vans were the same crimson lake as applied to passenger coaches, but later vans built around 1940 were built finished in bauxite or lake undercoat . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11D Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 There's a picture of a preserved LMS 6.5 ton fish van here. Thing is, you can't be sure preserved items are colour correct. But it looks crimson... And a model here. It looks crimson too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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