muddys-blues Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hi, does anybody know of any NSE liveried CK's that was fitted with B4 (MK2 coach) bogies, if so do you have any running numbers. Also in relation to this query does anybody know of any websites where I can find out information on coaches and such little details as running numbers and various bogie fitments. There used to be some great fototopic sites but as we know they seem to have disappeared now, I am trying to vary my fleet of Bachmann coaches, with different bogies and running numbers. Thanking you in advance Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I've had a look in my Platform 5 books for 1985 to 1988 and the only CKs with B4 bogies were 7117, 7119, 7120, 7121, 7122, 7124, 7125, 7128, 7129, 7131 and 7132. None of these were allocated to Old Oak Common and all had been withdrawn by the summer of 1987 and I don't think any got NSE livery. 7158 and 7213 got NSE livery but these had Commonwealth bogies (and were based at Euston). Old Oak Common used Mk2a FK stock in their Oxford local sets. About 15 of these coaches were converted to vacuum brakes between 1976 and 1977 and Old Oak Common had nine of them. I've kept all my old spotting books from the 1980s but Platform 5 Coaching Stock Pocket Books are still easily available on ebay and second-hand sites/bookshops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hey Flood, top info that my friend, can I be cheeky "whilst you still have your P5 book in your hand" and ask if any NSE BSK's had B4 bogie, and when were they withdrawn ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 35290 based at Euston (used on the cobbler services) was in NSE with B4's. This is in my '89 platform 5 book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 35290 based at Euston (used on the cobbler services) was in NSE with B4's. This is in my '89 platform 5 book. Thanks Jon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Very cheeky! Right then by 1988 you had 35192, 35193, 35196 and 35200 in NSE with B4 bogies. 32329, 35339, 35447, 35452, 35464, 35471, 35474 and 35475 were in NSE but with Commonwealth bogies and revised roof vent positions. They were all at Euston except 35196, 35471, 35474 and 35474 (Old Oak Common). Further to my previous post the stock had changed by 1992. Old Oak Common had 13 CKs in NSE but they all had Commonwealth bogies. They also had nine BSKs in NSE. 35290 (B4, revised vent positions) plus 35309, 35317, 35329, 35447, 35452, 35455, 35474 and 35475 (Commonwealth bogies, revised roof vent positions). Please don't ask me which ones were light NSE or dark NSE or if any of the light NSE stock had the numbers to the left end of the coach instead of the right, I really don't know! I once made a complete list of the Mk2 stock running on Wat-Exe in 1987 with all the livery variations. That was difficult enough and that was in the early 1990s, finding that detail now would be virtually impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Very cheeky! Right then by 1988 you had 35192, 35193, 35196 and 35200 in NSE with B4 bogies. 32329, 35339, 35447, 35452, 35464, 35471, 35474 and 35475 were in NSE but with Commonwealth bogies and revised roof vent positions. They were all at Euston except 35196, 35471, 35474 and 35474 (Old Oak Common). Further to my previous post the stock had changed by 1992. Old Oak Common had 13 CKs in NSE but they all had Commonwealth bogies. They also had nine BSKs in NSE. 35290 (B4, original vent positions) plus 35309, 35317, 35329, 35447, 35452, 35455, 35474 and 35475 (Commonwealth bogies, revised roof vent positions). Please don't ask me which ones were light NSE or dark NSE or if any of the light NSE stock had the numbers to the left end of the coach instead of the right, I really don't know! I once made a complete list of the Mk2 stock running on Wat-Exe in 1987 with all the livery variations. That was difficult enough and that was in the early 1990s, finding that detail now would be virtually impossible. WOOOOHHHH, information overload, that lot will blow my brains, I've only got 2 x CKs in my modelling stock, Seriously Flood top info that my friend, now did any of these run in the North West ?............... only kidding..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Right then by 1988 you had 35192, 35193, 35196 and 35200 in NSE with B4 bogies. These 4 are all missing from the 89 book so were withdrawn in 1988. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Just in case you are as sad as me here's a couple of pointers: First off, 35290 with B4 bogies but the revised roof vent positions. I know it's in blue and grey but it was repainted during 1988. http://www.railscans.co.uk/picture/_c48_26m.jpg My sheet of revised vent positions just in case you want to alter any SKs, CKs, BSKs or BCKs. HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Excellent pic Flood & great info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger440 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I too recorded all the variants i could find on the old oak NSE sets. do you think i can find that info now? No chance, but im convinced ive got it somewhere uin the loft. Currently the only reference ive got is the actual models themselves that i created at the time. One day hopefully it will turn up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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