Lochty no more Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Some photographs of Scottish Grain Distillers 20 ton Grain wagons at the KFRPS yard at Kirkland ( Leven ) awaiting restoration. SGD had 5 distilleries in central scotland, Cameronbridge (Fife), Port Dundas (Glasgow), Carsebridge (near Alloa), Cambus (near Alloa) and the Caledonian ( Edinburgh). The wagons which are of riveted construction but otherwise similar to the standard BR 20 ton grain wagon were originally painted DCL ( Distillers Company Ltd ) the company split into two separate orginisations, Scottish Malt Distillers (SMD) & Scottish Grain Distillers (SGD) c1956 and would have been re- painted around this time The company name changed yet again to Uninted Distillers who kindly donated the wagons for preservation in the late 1980`s. (the distillery shunter was later donated to the SRPS at Boness). Potographs of Cameronbridge station from the 60`s, 70`s and 80`s show these wagons lurking in a variety of sidings at Cameronbridge (Windygates). Following yet another name change, this time to Diagio.60 ton pollybulks were delivering grain to Cameronbridge distillery, unloaded by portable grain elevator into a lorry in the station yard in the late 80`s early 90`s then driven into the distillery. Diagio and proceding companies have shown a consistantly genorous policy when disposing of there rail assetts The KFRPS are keen to get these wagons back on the top line, so if any genorous Rmwebbers would like to contribute - you know who to make the cheque`s out to. If anybody requires more detailed photo`s for modeling purposes PM me and I will be more than happy to oblige. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochty no more Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2011 One of these photo`s is the wrong way round! The captions are in the wrong place, perhaps a spelling mistake or two - I think I better give myself a good shake before someone else does - whoop`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Actually these wagons look more like the GWR version to me. Can't find any on Paul Bartlett's site but there are plenty of photos of the BR wagons, e.g.:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brgraincgv/h139f1f20#h139f1f20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Actually these wagons look more like the GWR version to me. Can't find any on Paul Bartlett's site but there are plenty of photos of the BR wagons, e.g.:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brgraincgv/h139f1f20#h139f1f20 No, sorry they are LMS design vans. These were some of the photographs I hadn't put back from fotopic - but have now done so. These were the early LMS design http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsgrain/e30d38eeb and http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsgrain/e3dd452ae The last batch of LMS vans were different and led to the design used by BR for more than a decade http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsgrain/e365ecd6d The steel GWR vans were very rare but I did capture one on a very mucky day http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrgrain/e29e929ef . Although similar there are marked differences to the LMS vans. Paul Bartlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochty no more Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 I think some photographs of the builders plates this weekend could setttle this, but I suspect Paul Bartlett has hit the nail on the head, however I do wonder why an east coast company went to the LMS for a design when the LNER could have provided this - price perhaps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochty no more Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 We have had a good response to ths post, so if nobody objects I will post a wagon a week as the KFRPS have an interesting inventory of stock. which may be of interest to modelling comunity if anybody require`s further information on a specific wagon PM me and I will be happy to oblige. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I think some photographs of the builders plates this weekend could setttle this, but I suspect Paul Bartlett has hit the nail on the head, however I do wonder why an east coast company went to the LMS for a design when the LNER could have provided this - price perhaps! What a strange response! The LNER did not modernise its grains - they only had wooden bodied wagons, despite having the steel bodied alumina covhop. Before posting more, perhaps explaining the acronym KFRPS would be friendly. Paul Bartlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Kingdom of Fife railway preservation society, Paul. Based near Kirkcaldy as far as I know. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Kingdom of Fife railway preservation society, Paul. Based near Kirkcaldy as far as I know. Dave. Thank you. I don't know how many museums and conservation sites there are in the UK, but it runs into many hundreds so it is unlikely many of us will be familiar with more than a few of them. Paul Bartlett (who belongs to the EGRM "Ebor" Group of Railway Modellers. Which meant it took me years to realise that there was model railway club at the bottom of the road - in York! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hi Lochty, Came across this topic by accident when looking for something else... nice photos. I remember these wagons at Cameron bridge in the 1970s: I see you have No 26 in your fleet - here's a photo of it at Cameron Bridge in 1977, looking less weathered than in your shots! I seem to remember the livery was light grey with white or cream lettering shaded red, but memory is fallible! Can you or anyone else confirm? cheers Graham PS did you ever post any more photos of KFRPS wagons? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6959 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I was searching for a full size picture that may have been the inspiration for the Triang GRAIN wagon and came across this post. Very similar and assume the model is slightly freelance. The bottom part without the dome was sold as an open hopper. I just found a box of one dozen of the R214 and would like to use them somehow. Thanks for posting these photo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted September 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 09/03/2012 at 20:51, Graham R said: Hi Lochty, Came across this topic by accident when looking for something else... nice photos. I remember these wagons at Cameron bridge in the 1970s: I see you have No 26 in your fleet - here's a photo of it at Cameron Bridge in 1977, looking less weathered than in your shots! I seem to remember the livery was light grey with white or cream lettering shaded red, but memory is fallible! Can you or anyone else confirm? cheers Graham PS did you ever post any more photos of KFRPS wagons? Hi everyone, Sorry for resurrecting an old thread however I saw a photograph, today, of one of these wagons and wondered about their history. Please excuse my ignorance, but did these venture far from Cameron Bridge or were they for internal use only? Thanks and regards, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 They survived long enough to carry SGD prefixed TOPS numbers! Mark Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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