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Drawings/diagrams for Class 442 bogies (BREL T4 & BREL P7)


tomstaf

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Hi,

 

I need drawings/diagrams for the bogies used on the Class 442 Wessex units. The trailer cars had BREL T4 bogies. The motor coach had BREL P7 power bogies. Does anyone have or know where I can get hold of drawings for them please?

 

Thanks

 

Tom

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i don't know if it's different terminology, but but 'BR equipment 2' (gibbons) mentions BT13 trailer and BP20 power bogies similar to those on cl.319s

 

some useful images here: http://www.semgonlin...class442_3.html

 

i don't think in any case the trailer bogies are T4, as far as i can recall these were only used under mk3b loco-hauled DVTs. they seem to have a more normal sturdy frame with two sets of springs either side of the 'axlebox', as opposed to the radius arms of the EMU bogies

 

http://www.traintesting.com/images/T4%20bogie.jpg

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i don't know if it's different terminology, but but 'BR equipment 2' (gibbons) mentions BT13 trailer and BP20 power bogies similar to those on cl.319s

 

some useful images here: http://www.semgonlin...class442_3.html

 

i don't think in any case the trailer bogies are T4, as far as i can recall these were only used under mk3b loco-hauled DVTs. they seem to have a more normal sturdy frame with two sets of springs either side of the 'axlebox', as opposed to the radius arms of the EMU bogies

 

http://www.traintest.../T4%20bogie.jpg

 

Hi Keefer,

 

Thanks for the links. It appears that there were several variations of T4 type bogies. For some reason the Wessex bogies got the T4 classification too despite being very similar to BT13s.

 

 

Cheers

 

Tom

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hi tom, don't know if it was maybe an overlap between BR-BREL and more 'independent'-BREL?

 

just thinking that the BT or BP branded bogies were an EMU derivative/development of the LH bogies - IIRC the bogies for the 310/312s looked similar to the B4/5s but were obviously further developed for their new roles (quite apart from being powered or not)

 

admittedly not an area i'm fully aware of, but would the T- or P-type designations have come in during sectorisation/privatisation era, when BREL were completely separate and thus selling their wares on the open market?

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hi tom, don't know if it was maybe an overlap between BR-BREL and more 'independent'-BREL?

 

just thinking that the BT or BP branded bogies were an EMU derivative/development of the LH bogies - IIRC the bogies for the 310/312s looked similar to the B4/5s but were obviously further developed for their new roles (quite apart from being powered or not)

 

admittedly not an area i'm fully aware of, but would the T- or P-type designations have come in during sectorisation/privatisation era, when BREL were completely separate and thus selling their wares on the open market?

 

Hi Keefer,

 

The 't' means trailer and the 'p' means power. It's not associated with the dissolution of BREL.

 

Cheers

 

Tom

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I don't know when the system was introduced - the letter refers to the number of axles - eg class 37/55 bogies are refered to as CP3 I believe, but I doubt if they had that designation when first built.

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